By mhilliard on

Has anyone successfully used the FCKedit program with Drupal 5.x yet? If yes... what has your experience been with it?

My company is currently testing out the new Drupal 5.x CMS.

We have successfully installed the Drupal 5.x Beta 2 version of Drupal and see many nice features, but...

without a simple way of getting basic HTML-formatted text on to the Drupal web pages it simply won't be practical to use Drupal with the larger group of web content staff we need have capable of supporting the site.

It is not realistic for us to have our users put their own HTML tags in the site pages we want them to manage and update.

If there is any one in this forum who has experienced used several of the common WYSIWIG type editors (e.g. FCKedit, TinyIMC, HTMLarea, etc) that can recommend one of these editors based on their experiences (good and bad) with them?

Thanks for any information you can share!

Mark Hillaird
mpls, MN

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jeffrey.dalton commented

I have had good success with TinyMCE. I did a bunch of reading before choosing it and was pleased with what I have found. It has been updated to work with the latest 4.7.4 drupal release. Being able to control what buttons and features each user group gets has been invaluable as some users can have one button nirvana and others can have the features they need without to much control.

I have not tested in Drupal 5.x with TinyMCE but if the track record is any indication I would say it will continue to be the editor of choice.

Peace

Jeffrey Dalton
Creative Director & Founding Partner
BKJ Digital
https://bkjdigital.com

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mhilliard commented

Drupal_Evaluator

Jeffrey,
We have struggled a lot in using HTML editors (Mostly HTMLarea Javascript editors we have modified ourselves) and our biggest issues have been getting consistent HTML code, when users insist on pasting from MS Word documents.

In IE it looks like FCKeditor forces you to run pasted rich text through the Word Cleaner, but from testing the FCKeditor demo, it looks like Firefox will completely bypass the auto-word clean.

Do you have the option to configure TinyMCE to

force

users who are pasting from word (or all sources for that matter) to use the Word HTML cleaner?

This is the only way we see to get somewhat consistent HTML stored. Have you worked with tinyMCE to control this?

Mark Hilliard
mpls, MN

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gaele commented

I haven't tried this myself, but from the documentation of the TinyMCE paste plugin:

paste_auto_cleanup_on_paste:
MSIE specific option. If you enable this feature, a word paste will be executed when the user copy/paste content to the editor. This feature is disabled by default.

HTMLarea/Xinha has an option xinha_config.killWordOnPaste, which does the same.

Both only work in IE. (And both only work on Word. I tried with OpenOffice, and there still was some crap left.)

In FCKeditor you have the option to force pasting as plain text. The pasted text has to go through a pop-up window though, at least in Firefox.

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mlsamuelson commented

It appears to be pretty young, but the widgEditor module, if I'm not mistaken, makes use of the jQuery javascript library in Drupal 5.0.

It looks promising, and has a minimum of the clutter that some of the other WYSIWYG editors have.

See http://drupal.org/project/widgeditor.

Michael Samuelson
Idaho Commission for Libraries

mlsamuelson

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mhilliard commented

Michael,

I have read a lot of posts in the Drupal forums that mention the jQuery library.
Can you help me understand the some of the benefits that an Editor like widgEditor gets from using this?

Do you get better control and/or cleaner HTML ? Does the jQuery library extend the functions of the editor in an better way?

For instance I noted that there is no file upload option (outside of images) in widgEditor. Can this be added to widgEditor? Thanks for any info you can share

Mark
Minneapolis, MN

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xav commented

It looks ok, but inserting an image is a pain. FCKeditor works with IMCE, which makes uploading and inserting an image a breeze.

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InterceptPoint commented

FCKedit works fine with 5.0. I've also tried TinyMCE with 4.7 but not 5.0. FCKedit seems a little better to me, but both get the job done.

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harriska2 commented

I like it but it does not work when setting your configuration for Organic Groups.

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abe commented

I do not get the toggle to enable/disable rich text. I just posted http://drupal.org/node/111912 in the forum.

Thanks, Abe

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jurgenhaas
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commented

Have installed it on IIS 6 and configured all - I thought. But it doesn't work. At least I get the link next to a textarea to open the rich editor and when I click that, another window opens. But that contains only an OK and Cancel button, nothing else.

If I call the FCKEditor directly (http://[mydomain]/modules/fckeditor/fckeditor/_samples/default.html) it shows correctly and works.

In the log files for http on IIS I see that the editor is called and I get a code of 304, not exactly sure what that means and hence can't get it to work finally.

Any ideas?

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jurgenhaas
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I was able to solve it. In one of the .js files there was an invalid character in a variable name (I think it was a tab character) which was reported by Firefox in the error console. Removing that character did the job nicely. No idea though where that came from.

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keathmilligan commented

I have heard that it has issues with Opera, but I don't use Opera and I only use the wysiwig editor for my own editing, I don't expose it to users.

Just my 2 cents here, but from my personal experience, I do not recommend exposing a wysiwig editor to your general user base for comments, etc. Someone always ends up having issues with it no matter which package your using. There's always someone hitting your site with an old version of IE or some obscure browser that tries to pretend to be IE, but not quite.

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xav commented

Then that would be the perfect opportunity to tell them to switch to Firefox :)

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nishitdas commented

I have tried FCK and it works perfectly in drupal 5.2 . The only problem i got that in IE after clicking on Edit/Insert button the Pop up appears but with out the browse server button. So i cant add image to the message. It works like a gem in FireFox. what could be the reason.

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lulando commented

How did you get it working? What about a how-to for us non-geeks? Please, please...ok? Thank you :)