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By Pushkar Gaikwad on
well I really liked SMF bulletin board and want to integrate with my drupal site so that users don't have to re-register and there session stays as it is(no login back/loggin out stuff when using forum). Is this possible ? I can see some module for vB but what about SMF ? also I want to integrate one article script (may be article dashboard) on the site, can I also integrate it ?
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at this time there is no
at this time there is no SMF.module for Drupal. On the SMF forum I recently saw a thread where it was being worked on, but as I read through it then seemed to become abandoned. It may be benefiical to ask on the SMF forums for the SMF devs/community to (maybe) become involved in a project of this nature. Although SMF and its community seems to favor Joomla. (considering the amount of sites running Joomla and the SMF component.
Actually I am having second
Actually I am having second thoughts about SMF over vB. Partially because vB is very easy and flexible. And if I remember correctly, we can easily add vB into Drupal,right ? I mean I want to share the same database(the only and most important part of integration). What 3rd party free forums does drupal support right now ?
I came accros this site
I came accros this site sometimes back: http://www.vbdrupal.org
Latest from today:
vbDrupal 4.7.4.3 released
vbDrupal is a fork from the Drupal CMS which integrates Drupal with the vBulletin forum software.
This is the stable release of the next generation of the vbDrupal project. This generation is much more compatible with the stock Drupal releases than the previous generation. It has been rebuild from the ground up taking into account everything that we learned from the previous generation.
All third party modules and themes for Drupal should also work with this version of vbDrupal.
This version of vbDrupal is based on Drupal version 4.7.4.
It has been designed to work with vBulletin versions 3.5 and 3.6. A copy of the vBulletin software is required in order to use this piece of software.
This is a maintenance release. It contains a couple of bug fixes. If you don't experience any problems listed in the changelog you don't need to upgrade per se.
More information and install and update instructions can be found in the README.html file included with this package.
You can download this release here: vbDrupal-4.7.4.3.zip
This download is suitable for both a clean installation and as update for any previous version.
Changelog
* node search index update fix when using MySQL >=5.0.13
* added option to leave vbDrupal enabled when you disable vBulletin. This option should only be used when minor maitenance is done. In case of vBullletin software updates vbDrupal should also be disabled. This option can be found in the same window as the "Forum Active" option of vBulletin.
* hopefully fixed the odd user_access() issues
Drupal doesnt specifically
Drupal doesnt specifically support any forums but its own forum module. There is a phpbb.module for drupal don't know how well this one works. There is the FUDforum module which ties users together, but still requires two logins. One for forum one for drupal. Though They don't have to have seperate usernames. Than there is the VBulleitin module, which i also havent tried as I don't have (nor plan to have) a VB license.
OK, so currently there is no
OK, so currently there is no such module but can the db of drupal or VB be hacked to merge them ? I can pay a coder if this is possible and get the job done. Not only this, I also want to integrate 4-5 other kind of database script into my site. What can be the best possible way of doing this ? I think I can make a copy of the drupal column of login/password as a login/password field of other scripts. Is this possible ?
Ask here too
Ask here too http://www.vbdrupal.org
My reply to this post my be
My reply to this post my be worth reading for you...
Forums are one of the few week spots with Drupal
Last spring when v.5 improvements were discussed, forum enhancements were one of them (time permitting). webchick had noted she had compared PHPBB2 features to Drupal Forum and had hoped to close the gap some.
The lack of progress on the forum module and the lack of synergy with a high quality open source forum like SMF or PHPBB is a problem for some. I know I am looking at expanding a site with a forum and while I like the features of SMF and PHPBB (and the stability and better security of SMF) the idea of "splitting" the community and username hassles, lack of content integration, and so forth is a HUGE negative. But Drupal forum is missing so many basic features and having a dozen small user contributed modules (which may end up unsupported) to keep track of and updated would be a huge pain as well.
Hopefully the forum model receives some love in the future :)
i must agree with you..... I
i must agree with you.....
I hope that someone works on the module ... or at least someone give the drupal forum some love...
Stay with Drupal!
Using an external forum has serious implications, as showed here: http://groups.drupal.org/node/2095#comment-5923
It's better to stay under Drupal. We can achieve a php-BB like forum with existent modules around the Drupal forum. Join us at the DruBB group!
Is DruBB really a solution?
http://groups.drupal.org/node/2418
From looking at what DruBB is shaping up to be, it is just a collection of modules already available/being ported.
The problem with this approach, imo, is that you then have 15 independant modules to setup, manage, and update. Not only is that not very userfriendly, it also sacrifices continuity in workflow and in user experience.
I would absolutely prefer to go with a Drupal based forum solution for one of my projects, but if the options are the Drupal Forum "as is" (which to me means missing a lot of the workflow and features necessary for effect forum moderation and maintenance), installing a dozen or more modules (and spending countless hours to get them to play nice, and then hope they all continue to be supported and maintained) and do all the leg work keeping every module up to date independantly... I would have to say I would give serious thought to other solutions.
I think the native Drupal forum has a lot going for it, especially being tied so closely to the CMS, and would absolutely prefer a Drupal based solution. If someone had a clear vision for bringing the Druapl Forum featureset "up to date" and worked on an intuitive backend workflow for forum management I would seriously consider donating to such a cause.
Making Drupal forum look
Making Drupal forum look like those of phpBB, VB, having smileys, PMs, etc. is just icing on the cake, IMHO. The most important question to me is can you live with the speed/responsiveness of a Drupal forum. Just look at this forum at drupal.org . Yes it's big but it probably has a dedicated server as well. And it is much slower than a phpBB forum, for example ( http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/ ).
The reason that this issue is most important is that it may seem ok when you are starting up a forum and you are happily adopting Drupal's forum. But when your forum is big enough, and people can't take the slowness, what are you going to do?
The slowness of Drupal.org
The slowness of Drupal.org is surely due to some server issue and not to Drupal itself. In fact, it has been improved in the last days. I have seen slowness and errors at phpbb.ccom a lot of times too.
I think that the smarter move is to wait for a "DruBB" forum and then migrate.
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Over 2 TB of traffic a month.
Over 100% growth in the last year.
Over 100,000 registered users and over 100,000 content nodes and more in comments.
Drupal.org is a fairly busy site with thousands of anonymous and hundreds of registered users online at any given time. Traffic during North American daylight hours shoots up dramatically.
The primary bottleneck on Drupal.org is the database server (2 front end web servers, 1 back end database server hosting multiple drupal sites.). At this point optimizations have been performed etc. Hardware architecture solutions are being investigated for this years growth (memory, cpu, machine, depends on what we come up with).
That said, forum module can probably use further optimization over what was done for 5.0 but it's more then just forum module that's involved as Drupal is a CMS, not just a forum. For instance, chx and others have already worked extensive improvements to menu module for Drupal 6 that should provide benefit far beyond just the menu system.
Known performance issue modules that are run on drupal.org; devel (often run on drupal.org to gather and look at queries and times), statistics (adds additional calls to log to track statistics). Enhancements and improvements for these are being looked at.
http://buytaert.net/drupal-site-statistics
http://groups.drupal.org/node/1980
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I have maintained a small
I have maintained a small community using phpBB (least features), VB (richer in features) and Drupal (very flexible), with phpBB being the most responsive and Drupal the least. It is understandable because Drupal is a flexible CMS that allows you to do more (and hence more php calls, database querries). But the fact, based on my experience, remains. And for a forum, things need to be dynamic; no caching as most people don't log in.
Now we still use Drupal -- happily -- but not as a forum.
I don't know about the no
I don't know about the no caching ideology.
I point to Categories Heirarchy, a very popular addon for PHPBB which caches its pages for anon users and is very fast (even faster after first visit) as compared to a standard phpbb installation.
is PHPBB secure ?
Well I have never used PHPBB but ppl often say that it's less secure as compared to SMF which competes with VB in terms of solid security features. I have seen ppl complaining that there phpBB got hacked 3 times in last 3 weeks. I definately don't want that as I have NO time to fix all such things. So I guess I willl stick with Drupal forum for sometime and than will think for other option.
PHPBB is no more
PHPBB is no more hacked/cracked at then any other Open Source Software. Security holes are found and patched in Vbulletin, SMF and even our beloved Drupal.
Take into account too that some of the hacking comes from users downloading mods to PHPBB from sites other than PHPBB and have no idea whether the mod is secure.
PHPBB is close to, if not the most widely used open source forum out there (Many who get hacked don't keep up with updates.). Its only natural that its the most hacked at. Its the same reasoning hackers use to hack at windows. The more widely used a program is, the more the benefit to hack/crack it.
I was hacked through CPanel not that long ago, and I don't even use it but its available on my server. Whoever got in found a way to alter all index.php and index.html files. This certainly wasnt Drupal's fault but if I didnt know any better (by checking apache logs and the like) I could have easily blamed Drupal. after all its all that "I" was running on my server.
It may be a good thing to
It may be a good thing to collect the list of sites using Drupal with big forums.
see:
see: http://drupal.org/node/112116