By BillyBoy on

I've read more bad things about this drupal version than any other...and I was using 4.6 back in the day. What went wrong? Still 6 criticals and over 200 major bugs and I reckon many of them would have been critical had they not been 'conveniently' downgraded in the months leading up to release.

I was reading a good blog post linked to off d.o and I came across this comment which rang true:

Drupal 7 is indeed a cluster%&$@; it's basically the Windows Vista of Drupal. 3 years of development, rampant over-engineering, misplaced efforts... I am even wondering how I'll put that one at work. I'll hold on D6 until D8 probably, or better... move to something else

bingo!! The Vista of the drupal world.

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gooney0’s picture

gooney0 commented

I've been using Drupal 7 for about a month now. From my experience Drupal 7 itself runs fine. The contributed modules, and lack thereof, are what's holding me back.

My biggest complaint is the speed. Out of the box it is much slower than 6.

There is a big difference between Drupal 7 & Windows Vista. Drupal is free, and you're aren't being bullied into using it. :)

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A Drunken Theory commented

Speed performance is my only complaint as well.

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PMorris commented

I really like drupal 7 so far but I've only tried it on one site I'm developing. But I'm coming more from a design side of things and I'm not an advanced developer.

My only problem is finding finished modules and the weird behaviour of the 'run clean url' test button which caused problems when moving my database from a server that supports clean urls to a server that doesn't.

I've also had a lot of trouble finding docs on the differences between 6 and 7. Even for little things like the template files using -- instead of -. But I figured that would of been the same when Drupal 6 first came out? I wasn't around for that though.

I really hope the consensus doesn't end up being that it's that terrible because I was looking forward to finished Drupal 7 modules.

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awasson commented

I wouldn't call it a "Vista" because in itself D7 seems to be solid and the features I've found work and work well. I've been playing with it since RC1 and am currently developing one production site with it. That said, I do think the documentation is really lacking and of course the available modules are a real bottleneck. As a result, I won't be building anything complex with it until it's more mature.

I've been developing in Drupal since D4/D5 and I don't recall Drupal 6 requiring as much of a learning curve as Drupal 7 seems to have although that may be because my expectations and experience with Drupal are now pretty advanced compared to back then.

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mikeaja commented

I would give the original poster 10 out of 10 for missing the point........ :/

The whole problem with Vista was that, when we knew it was bad, it was too late. It was made.

D7 is completely different. Even if it was bad (which I seriously doubt given the enormous expertise behind it and the brilliant developer community), it can be changed. Issues will be fixed.

Let's not get carried away. D7 will be good, because the people behind it are good. If the community need to work a bit harder, so what? That is why it is a community project.

To the poster that said they would go from D6 to D8, 11 out of 10 for missing the point. If we don't use and improve D7, how will D8 work out? Everything we put in to D7 (including suggestions and requests), makes D8 better as well.

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awasson commented

I have to agree... I'm struggling with the changes to the API because I'm not used to it however, the core Drupal 7 installation seems to be as solid and responsive as a core Drupal 6.20 install. Now that I've been poking under the hood for a couple of days, I'm getting a better feel for the changes to the API and it's going more smoothly. I like some of the changes (now that I understand) and I'm still struggling with others.

IMO the only thing really missing is documentation, recipes and tutorials for the best, fastest, most effective way to do common tasks and that will of course come in time through those of us who contribute back.

It'll be just fine. I look at it more of a switch from Windows XP to (any flavor of) Linux or Mac OSX. It's better in every sense but the module builders haven't caught up and you don't know how to make it fly yet : )

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Thorsten commented

I agree on this point. I'm not a coredeveloper in any way, but from what I get by playing around by D7 it seems that it is not a sluggish-by-design, overengineered tank as a whole (yet), but at the moment slowed down by some bugs (esp. regional settings and cache handling) that are currently being worked on. Because as far as I can see from the phases when the caches a working correctly on my not-too-mighty-sharedserver, D7 can be really fast. Maybe the performance bugs are an indicator for D7.0 being a slight bit premature for production use, but it's good that the community finally made it to roll-out!
I'm looking forward to D7.1 which I expect to be much faster ...