I have access to the Google Analytics for d.o. and I couldn't find a single visit to any of the 4 pages these links point to. Lets get rid of them.

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gerhard killesreiter’s picture

why? They don't hurt anyone and are potentially useful. Maybe we should promote their use...

yoroy’s picture

They hurt because they are simply not used (no clicks for weeks acoording to GA afaict) and thus add UI noise to the block, taking away attention from other more relevant links.

Random linkage is hardly a strategy for getting people involved either, you can't even tell if you'll get something you *can* do.

greggles’s picture

Status: Active » Postponed (maintainer needs more info)

We will not see these in most google analytics reports because they immediately do a 301 redirect and do not display the GA code. We could see them if we analyzed which links on a page are clicked, but that doesn't catch people who use them from bookmarks. We should look at our server logs to determine the real popularity of these urls.

I no longer use them, but for a year or so they were the most common thing I visited on drupal.org

gerhard killesreiter’s picture

well, GA might be wrong.

However, I am not going to grep through logs to prove GA wrong.

I am not so much interested in keeping the links where they are, but I am interested in keeping the functionality and maybe expose it a bit more.

Maybe the links should be displayed on the project pages instead? Issue overview pages?

dww’s picture

Status: Postponed (maintainer needs more info) » Active

Yeah, GA won't tell us anything about who's using these links, since they redirect.

That said, I agree that "redirect to a random issue" is hardly a method for getting people involved in general.

At the same time, for a handful of us, these are extremely fun and occasionally (or sometimes frequently) we use them.

So, perhaps the compromise is to:

A) Remove the links from the "Contributor links" dashboard block
B) Add a new "Issue bingo" dashboard block that folks can optionally enable if they want to play this game

yoroy’s picture

Issue tags: +prairie

I should have known that 0 hits in GA was suspicious… Not the best pick for data driven design, sorry! :)

We don't *have* to take immediate action on this imo. Just thinking about it in the context of getting people on board (gdo/prairie), maybe there is value in these for this group of people: http://www.computerminds.co.uk/articles/playing-second-fiddle For these to be effective it would probably mean offering them in a different context, we can take some time finding out what that context would have to be. Thanks.

dww’s picture

yoroy’s picture

It seems adding stuff is easier than getting it removed ;-)
There's 21 links in this block now. Just noting that we're (close to) overloading this list and that it would be a good thing to get an idea about which links could be removed.

webchick’s picture

I like the idea of splitting the blocks and making the second (bingo) optional. I do hear a lot of feedback from people who use those links at Drupal conferences, but OTOH it is one of the crappiest ways for new people to get involved, because there's a good chance that you end up on an issue from 4 years ago that no one cares about. And we have "Novice" for that now.

simon georges’s picture

Title: Remove the patch/bug bingo links from the contributor block » Re-think the patch/bug bingo links from the contributor block

Just to give some input here: some french people just launched this week a #1day1patch initiative where we motivate ourselves to just fix a random issue. So we frequently use the "Bug bingo" link to find one. It would be a lot more useful if it could return a recent issue instead of some 4.x / 5.x issues. I've recently started to actually close the 4.x / 5.x issues in contrib just to avoid stumbling upon them using the "bingo".
Do you think there's a way for the "bingo" to only return active issues opened less than 6 months (totally arbitrary, could be one month, could be one year) ago?

But rest assured people are using this link ;-) So let's just rename the issue in "rethink" the links, maybe?

killes@www.drop.org’s picture

Project: Drupal.org site moderators » Drupal.org customizations
Version: » 7.x-3.x-dev
Component: Site organization » User interface
Category: task » bug

Moving

simon georges’s picture

First attempt at a patch returning recent issues in #335828: Bug Bingo for specific versions if the user specifies it.

simon georges’s picture

As this topic is about Bug bingo improvements, note that github has its own mailing bug bingo: http://schneems.com/post/42508340989/open-source-in-your-inbox-code-triage.

mgifford’s picture

Issue summary: View changes
Issue tags: +bug bingo

What was the strategy behind the Bug bingo?

I never really bothered with it. Not sure who does.

Something like this could be more useful if we were able to be a bit more selective.

If we could get designers new to Drupal looking at issues marked Novice & CSS then we might be able to help get them doing something that they really enjoy.

It's when you have that mix of what you have the skills to do vs the challenge that is just a bit about that.

If you give an experienced DB Admin any of those issues they'd probably be stumped and decide after trying it a couple of times not to bother. However, if we can match up skills & interests with needs in the community, then this block might actually be useful.

drumm’s picture

Status: Active » Closed (cannot reproduce)

I think the links were removed. I don't see them now.