Looks perfect!

nitram079 - January 25, 2007 - 16:41

After having reviewed some basics to Drupal I really have been impressed! As a fan of Joomla my first approach was rather skeptical. But after viewing the first videos I really got interested and took a deeper look; the Possibilities with Drupal seem to be even greater than with Joomla. This, I believe, is mainly due to the more flexible structuring principle Drupal is using.

Conceptionally:
Nodes instead of sections - views instead of ? hmm... what?
That’s great! Just what I need! A new handy tool to experiment with! -Views are a way to style the listing of the node content! As it is with Joomla, templating allows for individual placing. But, and I'd like you to help me on this one, it seems to me Drupals system of creating

User Management
Joomla can be equally user-specific as Drupal, but Drupal has such a beautiful feature where you can tweak each users display options and file handling right down to the very user. That's cool!

Extensions/Contributions
Joomla has various possibilities to achieve the same output effect. The goal thus can be achieved by both systems, yet Drupal focuses more on emerging topics while Joomlas way of structuring basically relies on sections and categories in which content can be stored. Joomla offers many sometimes huge extensions which are really exciting.

On the other hand, when I was scrolling down the long list of extensions in Drupal I even got excited a little bit more. To put it really simple: Things here are small whereas in Joomla things are rather large (of course with various small ones also). To me this means: here you can play around better! The possibilities to combine and tweak for personal and individual use seem to be much higher. This feature is specifically interesting for small or personal sites, small networks who allow for an easy but high and sophisticated integration of digital content. At the same time it offers all the same potential as Joomla, but goes much beyond when looking at opportunities for individual content design and my my opinion also display. My biased judgement is purely due to the fact that I hate to tweak around in the code much, even if it’s only a css file. I should be able to integrate all modules I need and get going. As this kind of guy, Drupal gets me what I want faster, not necessarily better!

-take blogging for example. Sure, in Joomla there exist possibilities for blogging. But if you just quickly want to set up a blog and align it with all other content you have (meaning combining it with a logical structuring form that is then expressed in a teplateable disiplay), Drupal is easier!
I believe in the future, tags, categories and sections, subsections etc. will stay very useful navigational elements for certain customers of a page, I also believe that we will find many more ways of structuring content.

A word on Joomla 1.5: The Beta looks cool, but the main structuring paradigm will stay similar. So my main arguments will not change.

Conclusion
Joomla will have to become more flexible in structuring in its core. Only this way will a customer-focused webdesign succeed. And it will succeed! Why? Because clearly it would be great if we could design an adequate sales approach for each customer and create user focused entry points. This just increases our potential to reach the customer which in turn leads to greater purchasing decisiveness etc. I would love each company to make the entry point that suits my needs (I do not mean customizing using cookies or similar, since cookies get cleaned up so fast- but rather one entry page for each customer). I am a strange guy, when I explore the web I want to know what the page is all about and what I can do with it. Strangely, I find this info on many pages only after a long search.
Since I am just one of many different customers, the company should seek to increase the easy of information retrieval of individual customers since this will keep them longer on the site and get them more interested/informed.
I am certain each company could identify a vast number of customer groups with similar claims, let's call them stakeholders. The step to providing each sakeholder with an appropriate communication and presentation concept is then quite small - so why hasn't it been done? Maybe just because from a technical standpoint it hasn't been as easy as it should have. Then, clearly this becomes a little more complicated – One has to really care for a digital concept that evolves over time in which information storage and display principles should be customer driven and also evolving over time.

Well, this customer focused thing is my personal dream - maybe not yours.

Therefore, if you have other immediate preferences, Joomlay may be the better option. But overall user-friendliness is bigger at Drupal! Support is really LCU-based. That's my favorite measure to judge webpages: Does the Least Capable User (LCU) get what he came for? Don't get me wrong - the documentation and community contributions are probably even bigger at Joomla, and if you know your way around a little bit, you may be able to extract superior information. Although also at Joomla the focus on user-friendliness is dominant (and certainly also successful), I think the Drupal Node system will be more appealing to people and companies that are especially emerging. By this I mean growing companies that expand in many fields and possibly also change business models over short periods of time. However, Other companies which are more established and provide rather stable content structuring frames could prefer Joomla because of it's section-category (sec-cat) logic.

Finally, Drupals system is better able to cope with emerging content and categorization. It is also better prepared for a purely customer driven page logic. By this I mean that if you want to create specific entry points for specific customers with each time special display, interaction, data display and handling options

I'd love to hear your opinion

cheers

I Concur

throk - January 25, 2007 - 17:37

I totally agree.

I was an avid Joomla user myself, and I hate to say it, their kind happy birthday to Drupal on the homepage peaked my interest!
I felt I was always needing to hack and jerry-rig Joomla components to work for my needs. However, most of what I was trying to do is already built into Drupal. Especially the CCK! Simply amazing....

Drupal seems much more streamlined and leaner than Joomla.

nitram079, well said sir... well said.

 
 

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