Postponed (maintainer needs more info)
Project:
localize.drupal.org
Component:
Existing language complaint
Priority:
Major
Category:
Support request
Assigned:
Unassigned
Reporter:
Created:
17 Apr 2011 at 13:14 UTC
Updated:
16 Feb 2012 at 17:58 UTC
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Comment #1
damien tournoud commentedSupposing the content was transfered to ldo with the agreement of a sufficient number of contributors, the easiest way to restore attribution would be to edit the profile of the "drupaler.ru" user (http://localize.drupal.org/user/148949) to list the initial contributors (a partial list can be found at http://drupaler.ru/translate/languages/ru). There is absolutely no reason to restore ownership of each individual translation.
Comment #2
pvasili commentedDamien Tournoud thank you for your comment Please read this problem in detail...
None! of the authors of the translation has not given its consent!
Consent was given the people who were not involved in the translation (maybe 1-2 lines - ОК, but 8000 lines..., 1500 lines)... :(.
Perhaps the most participants will transfer their consent(and wants to do it)...
But, who is authorized to remove the authorship of the most active participants?
Maybe I want to delete the authorship of Drupal, but I'm not doing this...
I respect all (even one person) who contributed to the Drupal! Why L.D.O (some participants) stole someone else's work and deleted the names of people who did it?
Comment #3
podarokThere is only 1 author in ru-l.d.o team with removed copyrights - ellectronc ~1400 strings - my letter to her was moved to spam(crazy gmail) and she didn`t know about migration at all. I`m sorry about that but I have no idea how to fix it on l.d.o and I`m ready for discussion about it if there are any possibility to fix it on production (l.d.o)
pvasili - not answered(despite many others from RU group at drupaler) on my mail at a time when I collected a list of authors want migrate their "numbers" from drupaler to l.d.o. Rules were "NO ANSWER - NO COPYRIGHT" and pvasili read my letter but not answered. Period!
BTW - access for "drupaler.ru" account at l.d.o was send to pvasili after migration done.
I give more than 6 weeks to decide "want or no" . Sorry, but how can I know about pvasili if there were no any letters from him about that? (there were many other letters in our conversation during migration process)
All the work was not stealed from drupaler.ru - andypost is one of the co-maintainers of drupaler.ru and dump was given to me by him after common decision at drupaler.ru via group poll.
I am ready for fixing this if there is a way to do such string reorganization at l.d.o database.
Comment #4
podarokComment #5
damien tournoud commentedAs mentioned restoring attribution can be as simple as mentioning the original authors on the drupaler.ru user profile page. But that's not the only question here: pvasili is suggesting that you infringed his copyright by moving the translations to ldo.
By the way, the license of the translations on ldo is not very clear at this point. We are redistributing the translations in the localized Drupal distribution, assuming they are GPL, but there is nothing explicitly mentioning that they are.
Comment #6
Anonymous (not verified) commented+1 Ellectronc and PVasili strings should be restored.
And fix @vadbars account, he imort ~3800 strings, which you have then override "drupaler.ru" account.
pvasili - not answered(despite many others from RU group at drupaler) on my mail at a time when I collected a list of authors want migrate their "numbers" from drupaler to l.d.o. Rules were "NO ANSWER - NO COPYRIGHT" and pvasili read my letter but not answered.
PVasili answered to you in the comment reply on drupaler.ru befor import.
Comment #7
pvasili commented2podarok
1) Please do not change the topic title!
(You already have experience to change the view of other people without their consent... )
2)
> There is only 1 author in....
There are now 0!!! people have given their consent to the transfer of data
(no list of who gave consent (> 6 weeks to decide...).
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>"NO ANSWER - NO COPYRIGHT" - is personally your invention?
I think the position of the leadership LDO and drupal.org another...
I demand the authors return to their names, or remove the stolen information (using it illegally)!
Comment #8
podarokthere are a few type of making possible to fix it
All of them wrote by me at ru-l.d.o group
all the strings can be deleted via issue from drupaler.ru account at l.d.o and reimported by pvasili, ellectronc ot any.
2pvasili.
There are no any possibilities to delete drupaler.ru account and import strings without troubles at all - old strings mostly overridden by community members and very "simple" way - just delete drupaler.ru account and all the strings from it
You think I have to do that? No! I do not think so! I don't wanna be responsible for the garbage in translation we can get after such deletion. As for me - Damien Tournoud are right - at drupaler.ru profile at L.D.O a list of initial contributors is a very very good idea and I am voting for it. Dou You?
I did all to protect drupaler.ru(pvasili ownership BTW) copyrights with personal contact to every member from drupaler.ru and give mostly(50+) "thanks" and only 2 "not thanks" from active members.
All, who give me directly "yes" transfered 1to1 from drupaler.ru website into l.d.o. All who not - completely transfered to into one, self-named account. It is my decision, which was send to pvasili before migration itself without any prohibition!!!
I think it is - well done. Yes, I am a man, one from those peoples who are not perfect and still can do errors in my work (who doesn't?) and I'm sorry for that.
2pvasili - drupaler.ru is in Your hands, I have no idea why this issue still opened despite any other, something like (Please. do delete drupaler.ru strings from database cause I'm an owner of them and want to remove it from l.d.o). May be I can do it for You? Just tell me that.
Comment #9
podarokBTW
as was described by Gabor after proposal for migration(ot duplication) Russian group from drupaler.ru into l.d.o - group have to be closed with only one place for translators. ( http://drupal.org/node/564794#comment-3741158 + http://drupal.org/node/564794#comment-3760136 + )
Migration - done, group at drupaler.ru still opened and as I see - translations at drupaler.ru are very different from l.d.o and still growing
2pvasili - You are responsible for that!
Comment #10
podarok#1136910: Request for deletion drupaler.ru account from l.d.o and all the strings from it
Comment #11
pvasili commented2podarok Please do not change the topic title!
This title is correct
Comment #12
gábor hojtsyGuys between #1136910: Request for deletion drupaler.ru account from l.d.o and all the strings from it and #1129872: Authorship on LDO I don't see that there is any agreement whatsoever as to what should be done here. Should I drop the Russian group from localize.drupal.org and make it look like Drupal does not support Russian so you can continue your disputes and maybe come back for Drupal 8 in a couple years or something? I'm really not seeing any good direction here and its been years of discussion already! (Ref: #564794: Add Russian language to l.d.o).
Comment #13
wulff commentedMoving this issue to the new l.d.o project.