usernode not created

I am sure i am just missing the point of this but figured i'd ask.

- i create 2 cck types and set both as nodeprofile types
- in nodefamily both are automatically set as children of usernode

I only want one of these to be filled in a registration time.. and the other to be filled in after

- so i set the access control for "view content_firstccktype on register form", but not the 2nd type
- when i register i get the first one as expected

and when i log in i can see this info.. all seems well..

but for some reason i think i thought that the 2nd type would now be a unfilled out form (preferably as a tab) under the users profile.. no idea why i thought that..

so i guess no idea with this set of modules to do something this simple??? currently i am using:

nodefamily, nodeprofile, usernode, rolesignup, registerprofile

perhaps i was thinking of the profile module where i could define fields that go into user profile; and then set whether or not they are available at registration time

so perhaps i need a 6th module in this set that auto-creates the other nodes when a user registers???

and maybe another one to render all my nodes in tabs for the user profile???