By jtpalette on

Hey there, I'm still pretty new to Drupal and (sort of) development terminologies. I'm a designer.

Anyhoo. I'm interested in using IMCE with CKEditor. IMCE says it's compatible with CKeditor(standalone modules).

The problem is I'm not super clear what "standalone module" is referring to.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

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WorldFallz commented

ckeditor can either be used with the http://drupal.org/project/wysiwyg or http://drupal.org/project/ckeditor modules. The standalone version is the latter.

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jtpalette commented

First off...thanks for the reply!

OK, currently I've got CKEditor integrated with Drupal through the WYSIWYG module.

If I'm understanding correctly though, I can use CKEditor directly with Drupal, and no WYSIWYG go-between, correct?

Thanks!

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WorldFallz commented

Not exactly.

Though you can use ckeditor directly with no module, that would involve custom code. There are two different modules that I linked above. Wysiwyg is an api that is designed to interface with several different external js editors. The ckeditor module is aimed specifically at ckeditor. Which you use depends on what what other modules you want to use (many only integrate with ckeditor if used with the wysiwyg module) and how you want to configure ckeditor. In general, I just use the ckeditor module as it is easier and more comprehensive to configure ckeditor if you don't need any other wysiwyg modules.

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DGvNp0niToyRspXaaqx3PiQBMn66QXyAq5yrNHpz commented

What you're probably going to want to do is install the WYSIWYG module. From there you'll be able to install the CKEditor version that is compatible and then IMCE to finish off your installation. If you decide that IMCE is too heavy there are other options such as Insert that integrate with the FileField and ImageField CCK widgets.

To get started setting up WYSIWYG have a look at the setup/installation documentation here http://drupal.org/node/371459

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jtpalette commented

Thanks for the insight!

At this point I've already installed the WYSIWYG module and CKEditor. I've recently installed IMCE, but couldn't figure out the next step...

My goal is to have the ability to insert images within content in the easiest, most user-friendly way.

I've heard that the CKEditor/IMCE combo is a bit convoluted. Like the user will have to perform a few steps to add an image. I'm just looking for a one-dialog box method.

Any suggestions, most common approach to this?

Thanks!

Drupal Noob

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DGvNp0niToyRspXaaqx3PiQBMn66QXyAq5yrNHpz commented

As far as simple and user friendly the best I've seen is the Insert module. You upload an image or file via a Filefield or ImageField then, press the "Insert" button and it places that image or file into the textarea where your cursor is.

However, I have also used the WYSIWYG Image Upload in the module in the past as well, but it seems to break down a bit and become buggy when there are many images on the site. That is at least true with older versions, not sure about the news 6.x-2.9 version. You can check it out here http://drupal.org/project/wysiwyg_imageupload

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WorldFallz commented

It also depends on whether or not you want the images to be nodes in themselves or not. If not, I like imce with ckeditor-- though it is a couple of steps, it's also only one dialog box. Once you done it one time its simple.

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jtpalette commented

Ok, I think that I will give the ckeditor/imce a try. i have wysiwyg and ckeditor currently installed and working well on the site. i've recently downloaded imce, an enabled it. but now i'm a little lost. what's the next step?

thanks very much!

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WorldFallz commented

I've not used imce with ckeditor using the wysiwyg module but with the ckeditor module you just need to configure one of the ckeditor profiles (admin/config/content/ckeditor) to use IMCE as the file browser. There must be something similar for the wysiwyg module-- though, as i mentioned above, sometimes individual browser configuration with the wysiwyg module can be obtuse.

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jtpalette commented

Ok, so I'm a little slow but I finally got that there are two ways to add ckeditor, either through the wysiwyg module, or as its own module. And apparently in either case you download the core ckeditor files directly from ckeditor.com.

So for ease, I disabled wysiwyg, and just installed the standalone version, configured a few additional settings in the newly installed standalone (specifying imce) and now I'm able to add images inline! Yay.

Thanks everyone a lot for the help and hand holding! I really appreciated it.

Why do they even have multiple versions available anyway? As if things weren't confusing enough... :)

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WorldFallz commented

There's a long story to this but the short form is that the ckeditor module predates the wysiwyg module. The wysiwyg module was created as an api for using many other editor scripts (ckeditor, nicEdit, tinymce, etc). I would think the plan was to obviate the need for the ckeditor module-- in practice however, the wysiwyg module doesn't expose all of ckeditor's functionality through the ui so if you only plan on using ckeditor (and don't need any of the other wysiwyg integrated modules), ckeditor is probably the better choice.

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jtpalette commented

thanks for the additional info!