[META] Commons on Drupal 7

As far as I am aware they are still waiting for some of the dependent contributed modules to port to Drupal 7, at which point the profile will be updated.

http://commons.acquia.com/wiki/migration-status-drupal-commons-modules

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We'll track D7 release readiness / work at the community site linked above.

Closing the issue.

The module table is now in the new wiki Drupal 7 porting status of Commons modules, at the Commons group.

With about 85% of the Commons contrib modules ported to D7, even when they are in different stages of development (dev, alpha, beta, rc, stable, in core), it looks like a D7 release with most of the features could be feasible soon. As I suggested in the new porting status table:

A practical possibility could be to release a D7 version of Commons with the already prepared modules. It would have a little less functionality than the D6 version for now, gradually adding it -in .1, .2, etc. releases- when available.

What do the Commons team think about initial D7 releases like these? They would be really useful for new sites. And, to consider upgrading old sites, of course there should be a short list with the features not yet available in the D7 version.

subscribing

About Commons for D7 (recent article Tales from Drupal Camp San Diego aka SANDcamp):

Day 1 : Distrubution Summit hosted by Acquia
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> Drupal Commons intends to move to Drupal7 over the summer if not sooner.

hello dear buddies,

great to hear that -

Drupal Commons intends to move to Drupal7 over the summer if not sooner.

great news i am pretty sure that many many people are looking forward to the release.

Drupal Commons has hundreds and thousands of friends all over the planet! They love Drupal Commons!

I look forward to any and all news!

greetings
unleash

I'm definitely excited about this possibility, and would love to throw myself and perhaps even some development resources wholeheartedly into alpha- and beta-testing available profiles. 85% functionality is a great place to start IMO...

well the project gains speed and i guess that we are heading
the first major steps towards accomplishing the needed tasks

Note: There are hundreds and thousands of Drupalers and Commons-users are waiting at the fences. The Drupal-Commons-project has got many many friends all over the planet.

The sustainable development is a great thing. BTW Guess that the DrupalCon at DENVER some boost of /in development can be expected.... What do you think!?

greetings unleash

We've posted an initial set of user stories for Commons on Drupal 7. You are invited to provide feedback at http://groups.drupal.org/node/214973 !

many many thanks Ezra - you are very very supportive

GREAT THIING to see commons evolving ever and every.

Thanks for everything you do!!

unleash

I would like to see a D7 version released immediately using whatever is working currently.

I could use it in any state, benefit from releases when they happen along, but still be able to do my extended customizations working in D7.

I have already developed code around Feeds and OpenCalais in D7 and moving it back to D6 was painful because those applications have changed, plus all the DB queries all needed to be updated. The same would be true for someone starting with D6 now and then having to move custom code to D7, or having to use modules that have an end of life in D6, or not be able to use functionality that has been developed beginning in D7.

I understand how complex Commons integration with some code has become, but D7 is now well over a year old, with lots and lots of mature modules specific to it. Themes as well.

Anyone looking to extend Drupal and Commons is in a tough spot currently, and an early release of a crippled D7 version would make all the difference.

Although I personally would like that Commons driven by Drupal 7 was released like yesterday, I'm not in favor of rushing - I would like to have planing and testing phase were Acquia can iron things out with help / feedback from community.

On a side note, I just watched LukeW keynote @ DrupalCon - I'm super excited to try to mock-up some ideas about Commons 7 user interface from the point of mobile first approach - especially regarding to mentioned constraints that lead to focus. :)

We are definitely using a mobile first approach so you can rest assured about that. I was in a few sessions at DrupalCon were the discussions led towards a mobile sized admin system, if you can crack how to fit create content, edit content and config pages into a mobile first idea that would be awesome. Bonus points if anyone can crack the permissions page, tables do not like to be scaled down, especially the monster that is permissions page.

thx ay 13 for the infos

great to hear from you

unleash

@mariomaric I don't agree that releasing an early dev is rushing it. It is simply a dev release, and as such, anyone using it is assuming some risk or effort in upgrading, including at the DB level.

This allows other development on the same platform, which is important currently since the differences between 6 and 7 are significant, plus many contributed modules are completely different.

Like js, I am one of those who would like to see a workable 7.x ASAP.

Before describing my thoughts, let me say that I appreciate the efforts of Acquia and the Commons team.

Couldn't a 7.x-1.x-alpha version be done very quickly using 7.x modules and altering Commons-6.x as necessary? (or am I under-estimating the work involved?)

It seems that a 7.x-1.x-alpha1 could become 7.x-1.x-beta1 in a few months (helpful for those who are not willing to spend the time/effort required by an alpha).

Couldn't work on 7.x-2.x be done in parallel so that a 7.x-2.x-alpha1 is ready about the same time as 7.x-1.x-beta1?

Benefits of 7.x-1.x-beta is: 1) gets a developer-ready version out there for those that are looking for a 7.x solution; 2) provides a upgrade "stepping stone" ==> 6.x-2.x -> 7.x-1.x -> 7.x-2.x

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The 7.x-3.x-dev tag plus the effort to describe a Minimum Viable Product, indicates to me that the decision has already been made to start fresh development. I think the concern of many is that new development will delay a workable 7.x version. Any chance for a roadmap? That could allay concerns or at least help in planning.

Hm..yes, I understand the urge of having Commons @ Drupal 7..I'm not in that position because I had no choice - I needed community web site here and now, so I built it on Commons 2.5

BUT, maybe if Acquia will provide full upgrade path (via Migrate module) than you could build your sites @ Commons 6? Don't know...

PS I like the idea of a D7 that allows for contributed apps from the community. Maybe building the core of such a system would not take very long - but I haven't seen any discussion of that.

By apps, do we really mean features in Duraplese? In addition to waiting for commons core modules to be updated to 7 (or assisting in that process), the commons features need to be updated. I think expanding a set of optional features (disabled by default) for the commons platform would be nice. However, I am a little worried about how fragmented commons already is through its features. For example, many for the features revolve around content types so we end up with a bunch of different views and tabs and contexts and such tied to content types. The activity stream and content types fight each other and aren't really integrated like I would want them to be. From the little I know of Drupal 7, some of that could be fixed by its architecture where every content type is not necessarily a node. Just hoping.

hello escapesequence , hello mariomanic

many thanks for the statements - the engaged words and for your ideas.

well i am pretty new to drupal . to commons and all drupalese - ideas of open-source movement.

i look forward to the discussion and all the story that shows me - that there are many ppl from all over the globe, that liove drupal, commons and all things drupal

i look forward to the ever evolving story of success and all things regarding the future of drupal 6,25 and commons.

greetings unleash

When I talk about Apps, I talk about Open App Standard and Apps module:

First there were modules, then there were Features, and now there are Apps. Apps is the next generation of extensibility and interoperability for Drupal. They provide a much better user experience of extending your Drupal site by providing facilities to download modules and all of their dependencies in one easy step.

Even in Commons 6.x-2.x you can develop your own features..but IMHO Apps approach is more complete (holistic?).

Hm..I think that maybe we should close this issue (or transform it to the [meta] one), now that we have 7.x-3.x-dev tag / version, and create separate issues according to progress with Commons @ Drupal 7 that hopefully will be announced at http://groups.drupal.org/commons

hello dear all

hello d ear mariomaric

thx for stepping up the plate. I love this discussion. I am a big big admirer of Drupal and Drupal-Commons.
The team deserves a huge thanks. A monster congratulation!!
Also all supporters among the community deserve such a thank !

Well - how can i help out to make the new version - (the version Drupal Commons v.7x ) becomming real more soon? That is my question.
I know that all you busy guys who work on the new version want to have a patience community.

I do not want to be unpatience - but i have to tell you that i love the idea of ironing out the last steps to get Commons to a go!!!

Hmm - MarioMaric ,you muse about the progess:

Hm..I think that maybe we should close this issue (or transform it to the [meta] one), now that we have 7.x-3.x-dev tag / version, and create separate issues according to progress with Commons @ Drupal 7 that hopefully will be announced at http://groups.drupal.org/commons

well from my point of view - Drupal-Commons has got lots of friends. They admire the sustainable development- i guess that we can have a very very brigth future... And yes: i really look forward

Transformin to [meta] issue...

As nobody complained about my proposition, I made this issue a meta task and changed the issue summary.

Extra info ffom the http://groups.drupal.org/node/214973

Bummer, I duplicated issue summary header. ;)

Preemptively tagging, though depends on the outcome of #1524868: Have D7 GDO run a distribution profile (such as Drupal Commons).

Added one issue, and rearranged stuff..

JFTR: added @ issue summary Help improve Drupal Commons for Drupal 7 with a quick online exercise and Quick Survey: Group membership on your Organic groups-based site posts from Commons GDO, and also D7 GDO will run on Drupal Commons from d.o front page! :)

Awesome - thanks, mariomaric !

mariomaric ! your increcible - many thanks for for stepping up the plate!

I look forward to the next weeks!!

greetings unleash

Added: http://groups.drupal.org/node/223299 + http://groups.drupal.org/node/224514 + http://drupal.org/node/1529948

People, things are rolling out! :)

From the ezra-g's post Commons Architecture issues:

I've posted several issues for discussing the Commons 3.x (Drupal 7) architecture.

If you have input to share about the way we build Activity streams, the choice of base theme, the WYSIWYG editor or wiki functionality in Commons, now is the time to share your thoughts!

Also, from the same author:

I would estimate that we'll have the first Commons 3.x (Drupal 7) betas in early July 2012.

If you'd like to help Commons come out sooner, follow the Commons issue queue and dive in :D. Feel free also to join us in IRC on #drupal-commons.

Issue summary updated.

Let's r'n'r! ;)

hello dear Mariomatic - hello all!

First of all: thx for the hard work

thx for the sustainable and continuing work you do. I am imressed! I am pretty sure that there are many many friends out there who are waintin for the drupal commons-release.
i am pretty new to Drupal and to commons too. If i know what i can do for the community i wuould do it.

I have many friends here who are eagerly wait for the July - but we are patient and keep up the trust that the work is pretty damned successful.

Have a great day - and a superb week - all the best to you

greetings
unleash

Added arhitecture issues and changed some other info..

Rearanged some stuff and added Needs design tag...
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m.m

Added upgrade path tagged issues and filtered all issues to be open and 7.x. -- m.m

TL;DR - issue summary updated - look above. For the whole story - see below. :)

Update to the Captain's log, Stardate -311445.04.

It's been awhile since the last update.

Our Captain Ezra Barnett Gildesgame announced new mission aimed to accelerate building of the new Panels class starship: USS Commons (NCC-7X3X) and to boldly code what no one has coded before.
New mission? Well, there are many great outposts which will hold camps (over the next few months) where all living forms from our Galactic quadrant should definitely come by, join forces and help us with various architecture, design, migration and other very precious/related issues.

In the recent call from the Earth, we received good news from the Starfleet Acquiademy. Starfleet most brightest minds, guided by vice admiral Lisa Rex, are working on finishing first round of designs for the new starship which will be posted for public review and feedback in the next week or two. For those of you who would like to get a sneak peak, it would be best to closely watch announcements at Commonsphere.

We also found out that admiral Moshe Weitzman (former captain of the glorious USS Cyrve) is cautiously planning migration routes - it would be huge disaster to loose all the galactic maps and other valuable data from our current Context class starship: USS Commons (NCC-6X27).

At the end, I wouldn't be able to wrote this report if there wasn't our security chief officer Greg Knaddison who is making sure that we are protected and safe from cross-galactic and wormhole injection attacks of hostile species.

Live long and prosper, yours truly self-proclaimed community officer,
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m.m

*laughs* top stuff, this is definitely the future, one day we'll all work on open source software not for money, but for our own personal sense of self-satisfaction. And bravely go where no Commons[er] has gone before.

I'm not sure about this Greg Knaddison bloke, he knows too much, stick him in the brig.

Okay, I'll be the PITA. How are things going with the migration to D7? Getting close to a beta release? Tis only the continued survival of the federation at stake.

I have checked the Commons Group but it appears to be mostly filled with job spam.

Thanks for all the hard work on this!

Well, I'm probably not qualified to speak for the entire group, but I've been surfing through the issue queue and some stuff seems to have stalled the last month while waiting for the community to comment. Which probably isn't that unreasonable because summer is when most folks take their vacations. :)

The best way to get it moving is to go in there and comment / help on the issues.

Fair enough. I'll try to take a look at some of those issues and see if there's anyway I can contribute. Thanks for the reply.

Updates... -- m.m

Breaking news: Drupal Commons 3.x Interactive Prototype is out - Feedback Requested!

@FunkMonkey: you could definitely try with this issues first.

Also, as I'm writing this Distro Sprint at CapitalCamp 2012 is going on.

(Removing Drupal.org D7 tag since this is not needed for Drupal.org itself.)

Commons 3.0 for Drupal 7 has been fully released a few days ago. Great work.

• Commons 7.x-3.0
• Drupal Commons: Videos
• Simplytest.me: Commons 7.x-3.0
• Drupal Commons

Thanks, juan_g! Marking as fixed.

I have discovered a critical bug in D7 Commons:

EZRA. GO BACK TO YOUR VACATION.

;)

Go away tag.

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