I have been with siteground for a year now and recently did the mistake of renewing my account with them. Before that whenever I complained to them that their servers were slow or not working properly they used to come back with a standard reply that it might be something wrong with my configuration as they couldnt notice anything wrong from their side. But atleast all my sites used to work. Then once I renewed my account a few days ago they all of a sudden realised that their server was performing below the quality standard and my site needs to be transferred to a new server (The beginning of the end)
This is what they wrote to me in their e-mail
"During the last few weeks, SiteGround system administrators have been carefully monitoring the performance of your host server xyz.com. As a result, they concluded that the server was performing below our quality standards and may encounter potential hardware problems. We have taken up the responsibility to provide you with reliable and stable service, therefore we will transfer your website(s) mysite.net to a more powerful machine on Thursday, April 26, 2007."
How badly I wish they had not bothered. Since Thursday April 26th when the server was transferred to date, there has been one problem or the other due to which either my primary site fails to work, my secondary sites on addon domains fails to work or all of the above (So much for Quality standard). Right now one of my site on an addon slot has stopped working. I am able to get the homepage and thats about it. whenever I click on any link I get an internal server error. After countless support requests one of their technical support guy came up with this gem of a reply, this when he knew that i am unable to access my site let alone the admin area
Here is the error that your site produces
mod_rewrite: maximum number of internal redirects reached. Assuming configuration error. Use 'RewriteOptions MaxRedirects' to increase the limit if neccessary.
Please turn off the SEF option on your site and everything will start to work fine.
Should you need further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us!
I wish I had hesitated to renew my account with them.
what I fail to understand is why were my sites working before the server transfer and why have they/it stopped working now and why is it all of a sudden my problem to fix this issue
Then the same guy came up with another stunner
I can see the problem. On my opinion the best solution is to contact a local web developer, who will set the correct rewrite rules, which will allow you to have two subdomains pointed to the same subfolder and all the links to be accessible without going in a loop.
The other option is to set a brand new installation and to recreate the web site.
Should you have further questions, please refer to our HelpDesk at any time.
So they decide to transfer my site to another server and now want me to hire a web developer to fix a problem which they have created in the first place. Beautiful.
So May I warn anyone who is thinking of going with Siteground - DONT
you will end up with problems, questions and these smart answers which will make you want to tear your hair out.
Now I am on the lookout for another webhosting company.
So if anyone can recommend some good provider, it will be much appreciated.
Regards
Manuj
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Siteground: no visible quality assurance system
I have have some good and bad experiences with Siteground as well. In their defense, they offer a nice proposition and they have fast customer support. As manuj_78 points out, this doesn't always solve your problems.
I have gone through a similar process where a standard Drupal 5.1 install wouldn't work reliably. After repeatedly bugging them with various support tickets, they had found the 'problem' and 'fixed' it. Apparently, it had something to do with the .htaccess file that comes with the standard Drupal install. Even after the 'fix', the problem persisted. After a week or so, they quietly (no e-mail, just online in the server status area) announced that due to problems with the server, they would migrate all websites soon. Fortunately for me, the migration worked out well and the website is finally working and now is actually quite fast. Check for yourself at:
http://www.connectinternational.nl/
What irritates me about the Siteground service is that you cannot monitor server performance properly. They guarantee 99.9% server uptime, but there is no monitoring service available for the customer. Also, when your website is down, the webmaster does not get notified by e-mail. Only if you are logged into the customer support area, you can check whether the server is working properly. You can see whether the server is online at this exact moment, but not whether it was online 10 minutes ago or at any other time.
In short, there is no visible quality assurance system in place that backs up their claim of 99.9% uptime.
i just moved to siteground
well..what can i do..cld u write to the senior management in siteground..and get them to do something on ur case....
drupal has many users..and our opinions count..so why dont u tell siteground..that u will spread a lot of bad opinions if they dont help u.
try this ..all the best
Same Story Here
I had an amazingly similar problem with Siteground. I had just renewed for another year and I received an email from them telling me they had noticed problems with my server and they were going to move it to a faster newer server. As far as I was concerned everything was working great and remarkably fast, with all 3 domains I host there. They performed the move and notified me it went well. In less than 2 days after the move, first time I toggled off one module, and kaboom. Instant database corruption. The site did work, but I lost almost all control over it. Modules appeared to be installed but wouldn't show up. Some functionality was just gone, and files were missing. I posted a support ticket and they offered to restore the site (at a cost). I backed up the site and tried an upgrade to 5.1 That didn't work so I put back the broken website and let them do the restore. Then they couldn't find a backup. After two full days they produced two backups. One which was less than 2 days old and broken, and another that was 8 months old. They charged me to reinstall a broken database. I just gave up at that point and did a fresh install of 5.1 in another directory, configured it, and started moving content piece by piece to the new site. Eventually I swapped directorires and 5.1 was live. Once again it's running multi-site with 3 domains, but it seems to take much longer to produce a page. It's not near as fast as it once was. I have since created backup scripts that worked for months, now all of a sudden they are producing syntax errors. Perhaps they don't like users backing up their data themselves... I've tried their backups. I prefer my own now.
a case of deja vu?
We are having the same problems, our server was running slowly so we thought that we'd upgrade to their Elite VPS package. BIG MISTAKE.
We have a community of approximately 3000 members, not massive by some networking sites standards, but still this VPS seems to be running out of memory. And we were advised that we could run our 4 Drupal Communities (one with large podcast files) on this server.
Initially I would have (and indeed did) recommended siteground, low cost, apparently good specs and the fact that they claim to be Drupal "experts", but since getting the VPS package, we've been down for the most part of 6 days now (including ALL of Sat and Sun, so lost an entire weekend)
If anyone has any recommend any alternatives, that would be great, or would anyone recommend server co-location? Our sister company has a few [windows/asp] webservers running, so it may be an option to build a linux box and plug it in.
anyway
Rant over
Vaughan
Siteground Problems
Like many on this thread, I was originally pleased with Siteground, but have been increasingly disappointed ever since my "server upgrade". Symptoms include:
- frequent error messages while accessing any of the multiple but low-traffic Drupal installations on my site.
These range from standard browser-generated errors like "cannot connect" to server generated errors telling me I have to contact my DB admin. Sometimes it seems like every 4-5 of my accesses generate an error, sometimes with data loss while creating content. I test responses from other Drupal sites during these periods and never see these symptoms at this frequency elsewhere.
- Cron job failures
I have my cPanel cron job set up to send me an email when this fails to run as scheduled every 2 hours. One month this year I got ~2 dozen! I assume that if it can't run its own cron job, it can't serve me or my visitors.
Siteground support is quick and is good at answering technical questions, but is unsatisfactory in dealing with these sorts of problems. Like too many other vendors, they appear to have perfected a process that lets the support person focus on the micro symptom, quickly declare it fixed or not reproducible, then close out the ticket. There is no way to engage anyone to look at the big picture.
Someone suggested raising these issues to Siteground senior management. Normally, I would to this before publicly posting my concerns. I'm a business person, too, and would appreciate a dissatisfied customer extending the same courtesy to me. But, again like too many others, Siteground offers no obvious way to do this. Has anyone else figured out how?
Reaching senior management
My experiences have been that if you keep re-opening a ticket every time the macro problem isn't fixed, a more senior helpdesk specialist or helpdesk manager will usually address the problem. But that doesn't seem to be a place to reach senior management to address the big picture that you have painted and which is spot-on. I guess you could assemble a group of Siteground users who collectively bring up several such issues.
One issue that I would add to such a list would be that they guarantee 99,9% uptime, but they won't show you the statistics of your website. I have set up an external uptime and responsiveness monitor which indicates that they don't quite make 99,% uptime every week. I would also be interested if other users have used a similar monitor to compare some reliable statistics on website uptime and server responsiveness.
Siteground
Well, I'm a client for over 1 year now at siteground.com and I can not really find myself in these stories... OK, if something is wrong I know how to find the problem myself and if I need assistance I know exactly what to write in a ticket. Then I sometimes get an somehow-off-topic helpdesk reply but after insisting they probably forward the problem to a senior and most of the times my problem gets solved after 1-2hours.
I also had the server upgrades for my 2 accounts and 5 domains seperately a few months ago and I only had a minor problem with the php4 to php5 upgrade... But that's something I had on my dev-homeserver too.
From what I can see, siteground keeps it's server pretty up to date with the latest software and I have had php problems due to the use of deprecated functions and variables too... But that's something that happens/ed on my development servers too and with other service providers.
After all I'm still happy with siteground and I can't complain about the price/service.
There's only 1 thing I really don't like. They promote 250GB hosting but in the 'Terms of Use' there's a big restriction on file-types and diskspace available. Let's say 5GB for multimedia, 5GB for compressed/archive files, 5GB for database dumps and 5GB for executables... Leaves 230GB for text files. Does anybody know a software project (source code) that's bigger than 150MB?? (watch MB instead of GB!!) My openoffice.org gentoo build package is 127MB... Too me that 250GB is much more a marketing strategy that nobody can really have. I'm still far away from these limitations but if one of my planned portals gets very active and users really use the multimedia galleries then I think I can hit that 5GB multimedia limitation fast. I hope they use a fair-usage on that!
Trogie
SiteGround
I've been really disappointed with Siteground since moving there two months ago... their support is AWEFUL. Actually, I think it's more accurate to say that it's non-existant. The search engine that you use in the support area returns garbage. And were do you go to submit a trouble ticket? It must be hidden pretty damn well.
Avoid this dog at all costs.
Ticketing
Hello,
When I log in on siteground.com with my customer id, I don't find it very difficult to see the 'get support' tab on the top of the page and the 'get support section' image in the middle of the page. Going there I see different other links to tutorials, server checks and helpdesk with a 'report a hosting related issue' link that brings you to the ticketing section...
In the last 2 years I submitted different issues and the reponse time was always fast.
What was your previous hosting company and why did you leave them?
Trogie
I've used siteground for a
I've used siteground for a few months now and although I had a problem (their server crashed and lost data), they were able to restore my site to exactly the way I left it. I didn't appreciate not being notified by them that the server was down. I didn't know until a horrified client emailed me - the site is her business.
Aside from that, I like them just fine. Before them, I was (well still am) with 1and1.com and I think siteground is way better than they are as far as support goes. Sometimes I've put 3 tickets up to get answers (well I have no patience) but that usually does it.
For those who lost databases etc...when I first learned to use a computer, I was using Word and one of the first things I was told: "Always save your work" - you gotta backup your database period! Hosting companies aren't infallible, computers aren't infallible, servers aren't infallible. So backup and then have a backup of your backup.
I'll stick with them and continue to recommend them until they seriously fail me.
oh man i feel for you i was
oh man i feel for you i was with site ground for a year and had problem after problem they are utter bollox pardon my french,
it was until i had to renew my account was when i changed to www.web-hosting-buzz.com the experances their have been stunning never had a problem with them plus value for money! $3 per month for huge space and BW
so from my experance also stay away from site ground or your site will be grounded trust me !
I use WHB too
I also use WHB as my hosting provider, one things that does clinch the deal tho is now they have PAYPAL as a payment method! and most people these days has a paypal account! (I may have repeated the fact they use paypal :S but not to worry) lol
here is a copy and past of my customer review of WHB
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Here is a web hosting (Link Removed) that i use for my drupal website I have been with them for about a year and a bit, Its been great as the only problem i had was one bit of downtime (which we where already notified by email about before) as they where upgrading some hardware and our site was down for about 10-15 mins max but from then I have had no problems.
The other thing is support, they have phone support (which i have not needed to use but its their if i need to) but they have a help ticket thing, which i have used once or twice and my problems where resolved pretty quickly
For those looking for a web host these are whom i suggest as they are fast, cheap, helpful but best of all reliable
If you have any questions then please ask and ill answer them here :) oh and two changes that have happend since I started, they lowered their prices and added paypal as a payment option also a 30day money back gaurentee
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regards
Chris''
I got out of there as quick as I could, but to my surprise......
I also noticed that I begin to have prob after prob with my site. Will say that their customer service in terms of responsibleness was amongst the best that I experienced.
I started with base service, but then www.siteground.com determined that our site was just too heavy and was causing probs, so they recommmend an upgrade to a Virtual Private server which cost us more money. Even after the move, I discovered the probs continued so in the end, just to many probs, happening to often, so in the quiteness of the night, I packed up and got out.
***In the process of moving our domain name, I also discovered to my horror that anytime that you go through a host company, who also acts as a domain reseller, who as part of their service registers your domain with guys such as enon, then the registrar of a domain is actually the owner of of that domain name --- it is the registrar who has the rights to lock or unlock a domain -- a locked domain can not be moved to another location without the registrar first unlocking it. ---- I am almost certain that alot of unsuspecting website owners do not know this --- I certainly did not.
I do not believe that this is in the spirit that alot of website owners utilized these services provided by host companies whom they offer/sale it as a time of one stop shop convenience. You know, host with us and we will set up and register your domain.
Think about it!-- the owner of a domain really is a type of owner of a site (your site). If you spend time building your site brand and the content is identified with that domain, they are actually accruing value which is not rightfully theirs. It is best to always register your domain directly with a register service such as enon or network solution rather let your hosting company do it.
When I called enon about the issue, the lady agreed that in fact this was the case, but suggested that I did not understand business very well. Thus, attempting to justify the practice -- the host company are in fact a type of vender for the domain registration services so they look at it as a business arrangement, but this practice is deceptive to the core. Why? because if any site owner knew that they were making such a compromise, they would just register their domain directly with a registration service themselves and maintain "direct" management of their domain name.
Well after raising holy hell and threatening to reaveal my discovery to the world, they released(unlocked) my domain and returned "direct" access management authority to me, as it was originally intended and as it should have been. I moved on, but I suspect that many are currently in a similar situation.
Just a heads up! hope it helps someone!!!!!!
Thanks!
Just wanted to say thanks to all the commenters ... I was just about to open a Sitegrounds account when I decided to check the Drupal forums, and I'm very glad I did.
I personally am not a
I personally am not a Siteground customer, but the vast majority of my clients are. For the sake of diversity in opinion and in reports of user experience, I should say that I have set up several sites successfully on Siteground in the last several months and can report you that it has been about the most pain-free experience I have had with any web host aside from IX-Webhosting. Everything has for me worked perfectly the first time -- file system defaults, clean URLs, URL redirects, etc. Perhaps it depends on the plan you get. Anyway, I am not defending the company -- as I said, I am not a customer. But if ease of use and functionality is important to you, I do not see how you can get a better deal for the money. I have never used their customer service, so I cannot offer any opinions about that.
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Any current experiences with Siteground?
I was keen to use them but now wondering???
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Leave siteground if you can ...
Hi,
It's now two years ago that I subscribed for an account at siteground US.
At the beginning I appreciated siteground for it's PERFECT technical support. Siteground could be reached very easy by phone or over email.
The technical support has gone (Once upon A Time...). Recently I wanted to contact the support because I'm unable to backup my whole database over phpmyadmin ... it doesn't work more! Even with other utils like "Mysql Administrator" or "Heidi" I'm unable to backup some of my tables. Since Siteground instored an ticket system they ask to their customers to pay
50 $ (yes fifty dollars)
per ticket in order to tread your problem. O.K. they fucked me I'll fuck them! I'll leave siteground in the next weeks.
FORGET SITEGOUND THERE IS NO MORE TECHNICAL SUPPORT FOR FREE AS IN THE PAST.
Dieter Fleischer
Bordeaux (France)
I'm not impressed with
I'm not impressed with SiteGround. It took me over 30 minutes to find a way to submit a support ticket and ended up using the "site down" option because all the other options looped me back to their KnowledgeBase which I had previously searched. The system is clearly designed to prevent ticket submissions. Once the ticket was received they did respond very quickly but should I have to endure their frustrating ticket system if another problem arises?
Again, not impressed.
Yep.. bad
1: They are in Costa Rica... only Costa Rica laws apply. See their TOS
2: The TOS is a "catch 22" The terms are so vague (The terms "excessive" and "wasteful" are defined by our experience) they can call anything abuse. If you "abuse" you're gone. Being "to popular" is abuse...so we close your account and keep your money. Oh, you are popular, try our $120 a month plan.
3: They are in Costa Rica.. if you pay, your CC will charge you a surcharge for payments out of the country. So their prices are not really accurate !
4: You can pay up to two years in advance... see #1, #2, #3...
I was with them for 4 years.
So they have my money, I can't do anything with them as, they have my money.
July 2011.
Too Late :(
I wish I had read through the community's sharing on webhosting services.
Unfortunately, I didn't and am now stuck with Siteground - they fooled me on the "Special Offer" of $4.95 for a year - and I ended up paying $33+ when the card was charged - by "automatically" adding unwanted add-ons.
Then I found their php timeout makes it near impossible to have any (other than a bare install) Drupal site work, let alone one with CiviCRM installed.
The worst part is I was again suckered into "upgrading" for better bandwidth/CPU only to find nothing changed on their php and essential settings!
To finish it off, their "Support" is worse than noobs and attitudes suck.
I agree: Avoid Siteground at all costs!
Siteground is amazing! ... don't know what everyone's problem is
I can't stand to see everyone bashmouth Siteground about stupid problems that can be easily resolved by doing a little research on Google. I've been with Siteground for 4 years now and I have quite a few hosting and domain accounts for clients of mine that I do web design and development for, I have add-on slots, ssl certificates, dedicated ip addresses, and more with them and all because in my opinion they have the best service around! There's always someone available to chat with quickly via their website chat window, you can call in and talk to someone about your issues and if you fill out a support ticket they respond in minutes, literally! I've grown so much as far as learning about how hosting accounts work, the features I've been using and so forth and I've also learned that they don't just feed all answers to you on a silver spoon. If your asking about a question that can easily be solved by doing some research or an issue that petains to the design and functionality of your website from code on your end, of course they're not going to slave for you like do some of your own work and research. Use that thing in your head called a brain and maybe you'll learn something new, its always more rewarding to do something yourself then to have someone else do it for you and I find siteground will push you politely sometimes to figure some issues out yourself so you will know how to fix the problem if you run into the same issue in the future. And they always let u know that their there for guidance if you need it. Just a great company and their prices are right too. I'm literally so sick of seeing people complain and whine about their issues like little babies because someone isn't spoon feeding them. People like that need to grow up. I don't use drupal, personally I prefer to learn and implement code from scratch for websites I create but I do know, from doing a little research, that drupal and other open source whatever they are companies like wordpress and joomla, have huge communities of people all sharing problems and solutions all over the web, in forums, blogs, google, so I wouldn't pin certain problems you're experiencing on siteground without first searching for answers from the open source community. I have not run into a small problem (lack of knowledge on my part) that siteground hasn't been able to answer or help me figure out the solution for it. Someone mentioned that siteground switched their websites to brand new top of the line servers free of charge for better performance and less risk for malware attacks, and the person decided that was grounds to make siteground look bad... Ok..
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I just want to let everyone now about my experience with siteground.
I'm using them for about 6-7 years for most of my sites.
Everything was running smoothly, nice prices, good support etc
Suddenly a few days ago we received a mail that they SHUT DOWN one of our websites WITH NO PRIOR notice!!! (note that the site was running on thir server for about 1 year)
They refused to turn it back on (we explained that it is an eshop) and they said that the site is "big" for the hosting plan we have and that in order to make it function again we should buy a bigger hosting plan ...
Even IF the site was "big" (actually the cpanel never shows us that we were out of the hosting plan limits) this is not a good way to behave with a client ...
Shutting down a website with no previous notice is absolutely unprofessional ...
Siteground is horrible
Please note that we used iteground hosting for 6 years and finally they have prompted us to move in for cloud at a high amount and within a month downed our website. When you contact them, they repeatedly deny to open access or pass the buck to an earlier ticket. Horrible experience. Whatever amount you give them, they are the worst and shut down website with no prior notice and even incommunicado for days while you wonder whether you are dealing with a host provider or a government agency that is trying to put you down. My suggestion: Avoid Siteground at any cost. I suffered enough and I don't want other go through same phase.
Arvind.