Hello,
hello,
After the presidential election in France I'm considering migrating two websites to a foreign country where they don't spy on you in such detail as they intend to do in France very soon.
To top it all the new French president (not yet in charge, gives us a break ) favours software patents & M$, and we'll see if he moves Ubuntu out of the first chamber of Parliament (députés). where it is planned to be installed in June for every member and their assistants.
The two web sites bear on free software, Linux and all things pubilshed under a free licence. No piracy, nothing illegal.
What I resent is the coming decree that says an ISP or a web hoster must keep all data for three years, including bank car number and all revisions of the content of your web site. For instance, if you write one day "hello" and the next day you edit it to "good night", the two versions will be kept for three years.
It's crazy and may no really be possible at all but I'd like to find another country for these two websites, and others to come.
Does anyone know of a country where the web is still a relatively free space for Linux fans and freedom lovers?
I thought of Quebec (found some free hosting there without ads and some ethics), Spain, ireland? Anyone from there who knows about digital laws there? Any other counry?
I can speak French and English and I've started learning Esperanto.
cheers,
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Try the United States
In the USA you can set up a site very comfortably with nothing more than a credit card. And the second amendment guarantees your right to say whatever you like on your site.
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Well, if you bear arms you CAN say whatever you like too. lol
Only if you've got more guns and bigger guns...
And generally speaking that's the government! Look at the Pentagon budget!
Denmark
Don't Quote me On This but I have heard that Denmark takes free speech Very seriously, maybe more seriously than the US. Again, Don't quote me.
If you are really serious, you could look into Havenco @ http://www.havenco.com
- Chris
free speech under surveillance
Oh there's free speech in France, and elsewhere, only the European Union and France have been taking steps for ISPs to store private data such as card number and for webhosters to store all all you write on your web site and all the changes you make, for a period of 3 years. The decree is on its way in France.
So if one day you say "It's raining" and then thinking better of you change it to "The sun's shining" the hoster will have to store both versions for 3 years. It's a crazy plan. The decree even allows private companies (hi there M$) to snoop into your own stuff instead of the police.
Data retention is very widespread in the world so i'm wondering if there'll be one tiny corner of the wide world where we can be free. I understand that terrorism and other illegal activities need to be prevented but the web needs to be a space of freedom and relative privacy.
I'm not sure the US is such a free country even if you are allowed to say whatever you like. I read the Paypal conditions when I first subscribed to their service, a couple of months ago, and they stated very clearly that the US notion of privacy may not be as strict as in Europe (now they have shoved us, Europeans, to Paypal Europe which probably means that our data is kept both in the US and somewhere in Europe!).
Data retention, I feel, is a threat to civil liberties and to us, peaceful and law-abiding citizens. But when some laws are unfair how law-abiding can we be anyway? :-\
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Libres-Ailé(e)s (Association for Linux and libre software) (France, Cévennes)
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http://librefan.eu.org/ Libre-Fan (Mozilla, GNU/Linux, le Libre [et les femmes?]), France
Havenco looks great and civiblog too
Thanks Chris for the havenco link -- :-D.
I've also thought of blogging with civiblog. But of course they will hand in data if they're asked to by the Canadian governement -- they have no choice. They harbour all kinds of "refugees" or cyber-dissidents from places whrer freedom of speech doesn't exist for all, but only for certain groups of people,
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Libres-Ailé(e)s (Association for Linux and libre software) (France, Cévennes)
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http://librefan.eu.org/ Libre-Fan (Mozilla, GNU/Linux, le Libre [et les femmes?]), France
HavenCo may not be as great
HavenCo may not be as great as it may seem and the information on their web site is minimal not to say obscure. Wikeipedia has more info and it doesn't look too good.
I've been reading about Sealand -- well not exactly a paradise or Utopia.
Well, freedom and peace don't really exist anywhere. :-(
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Libres-Ailé(e)s (Association for Linux and libre software) (France, Cévennes)
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http://librefan.eu.org/ Libre-Fan (Mozilla, GNU/Linux, le Libre [et les femmes?]), France
Welcome to Canada and the www.iWeb8.com Sanctuary :)
For a piece of mind that is without big brother intrusions, look no further than www.iWeb.com which is right here in my Canada - French Canada to be exact and where you should feel right at home. ;)
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Svi smo mi zarobljenici svojih ličnih iskustva.
We are all prisoners of our own experiences.
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Svi smo mi zarobljenici svojih ličnih iskustva.
We are all prisoners of our own experiences.
I have been thinking of
I have been thinking of French Quebec and I even wrote to tone of the ethical network of free web hosters called RHIEN but he was very puzzled by my questions and then never answered to my second mail. perhaps he doesn't a know a thing about the digital laws of his country -- many people don't give a damn.
So what you've given me is a a link to page which lists web hosters. I looked up the name in GOogle and it seems the site is under construction...
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Libres-Ailé(e)s (Association for Linux and libre software) (France, Cévennes)
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http://librefan.eu.org/ Libre-Fan (Mozilla, GNU/Linux, le Libre [et les femmes?]), France
www.iWeb8.com
I am sorry, I dropped the number "8" in the text.
The link should be www.iWeb8.com as in the subject line.
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Svi smo mi zarobljenici svojih ličnih iskustva.
We are all prisoners of our own experiences.
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Svi smo mi zarobljenici svojih ličnih iskustva.
We are all prisoners of our own experiences.