Is this legal/Ethically correct?

CmsTT - June 11, 2007 - 17:39

Hello, Kudos for the Drupal staff for making such an outstanding Program, and licensing it under GNU. I am on the process of opening a company doing Drupal installations for clients. So, I was in the process of doing market research in my country, when I came across a company in our country called "Agile Telecom" The page of interst is:

http://www.agile-telecom.com/ips_soft.xml#

They claimed to have developed their own "IPS" dubbed "Interactive Portal Solutions. Now, all well and good. But, they did the site of the local Newspaper, using their "IPS" heres the site:

http://www.newsday.co.tt/

Now, I may be wrong. But, isn't that site made with Drupal? It looks like a typical Drupal layout/organisation. Also, notice commas between the Taxonomy terms, when you hover over certain sections. I can be wrong. Also, notice what they say

It's modular design allows for ease of customization and creating custom modules and sections.

No knowledge of any programming language is required to operate and administrate the IPS software.

We offer installation services, migration from exisiting software, template design, custom modules development.

If you are interested in evaluating our software please contact us to schedule a demo presentation.

If it is powered by Drupal is this Legal and ethically correct to say they "develped their own system?" Does the GNU license allow this? If, however, It is NOT powered by Drupal I am sorry for this Post and it can be deleted.

Your thoughts on this matter is appreciated.

don't think it is Drupal

adam_b - June 11, 2007 - 17:58

Doesn't look particularly Drupal-ish to me - just a standard news-type layout (they all look pretty similar). I searched the page source for the term "drupal" (most people leave it in stylesheet names etc) and it doesn't come up, so I suspect it is generated by another system.

Not Drupal... 1) They have

zsanmartin - June 11, 2007 - 18:21

Not Drupal...

1) They have URLs like: http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,58418.html - If it was Drupal, they would have something like /node/58418 or perhaps something more beautiful like /news/title-of-the-news

2) The Search isn't drupalish

I think it's not the case. No problem here.

Also look: http://drupal.org/node/150490

José San Martin

Legal? ... probably under

matt_harrold - June 11, 2007 - 18:17

Legal? ... probably under the GPL, they probably never distibute anything to the customer, just set up a copy on their host and charge for the service AS IF it was a software product.

Is it ethical? I guess this depends on your upbringing! It sounds pretty dodgy to me.

Is it smart? NO! You lose all the power of the Drupal name, reputation, future, support network, and base your business on a lie. That sounds pretty dumb to me.

My clients are "blown away" by the concept of open source when it is properly explained to them.

Sell the service, not the software.

Thanks, for clearing it up

CmsTT - June 11, 2007 - 18:34

It's just that our country are not known for making new software, on that scale. Also, I was watching the breadcrumb trails etc, it looked Drupalish. And, they market it just like Drupal (with modular designs etc) Also, I think I would have heard if our Small Island (only 1.4 million) developed a CMS system. But, it seems that I am wrong. Thanks for the replies though.

Not Drupal, I agree

JirkaRybka - June 11, 2007 - 19:37

I did take a look to the HTML source, and I see it lacks any of the Drupal's typical lines, such as module-related class names all over the site, included JavaScripts and their paths like "misc" or "modules/xxx", stylesheet's path "themes/xxx", comments like "begin content" - nothing like that. There are completely different structures visible in the paths and class names, so I agree the site isn't running on Drupal.

By the way, I'm almost sure that the author's nation is Polish - there are Polish words in the paths/picture names.

Sunny Trinidad

CmsTT - June 11, 2007 - 20:05

Thanks for the many replies. However, the Nation I belong to is not Poland ^-^ Neither is the Author(if you were referring to the author of the website) I and the author are from Tirnidad and Tobago, a sunny little Island in the Caribbean. That's why I found it strange, that a companyin our country is capable of producing a CMS system. Also, the company affiliated with them is not known for their "technical Prowess" Perhaps its not drupal, however, I do find it disturbing that they would repackage someone's software and say they develpo it. Ah well, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Thanks for the replies though.

Sunny Jamaica

newms - June 11, 2007 - 21:05

Good to see someone else from the Caribbean on drupal.org. I'm from sunny Jamaica.

newms

Hello

CmsTT - June 11, 2007 - 22:15

Hello Newms, Yes I'm from Trinidad (not so sunnythese days :() But it generally is. I am relatively new to Drupal (about 1.5 months) So, I now summed up enough courage to post on the forums. My friend and I are starting a drupal setup and maintain company, so I am doing some self training. So far so good.

sunny Guyana

underpressure - June 11, 2007 - 23:12

Greetings from your Caribbean neighbor down south. How yall making out with all this rain we getting?

Yes, the "sunny" Caribbean

newms - June 12, 2007 - 00:54

Yes, the "sunny" Caribbean isn't so sunny these days is it?

newms

I know...

JirkaRybka - June 12, 2007 - 17:44

I know that you're from a quite different part of the world, far away from Poland. But that's exactly why I was surprised to see these names in HTML of that page: Picture called "poziom" inside "grafika" subdirectory, as well as another picture "pion"... These are all Polish words - I can tell, because I'm living in the Czech Republic (neighbour to Poland, speaking a quite similar language), reading a lot of Polish texts in the past. Polish programmers are good, judging by my past experience on Atari computers.

But this is all a bit off-topic here. Greetings from sunny Europe.

It’s not drupal but felt

nishit - June 12, 2007 - 01:02

It’s not drupal but felt great knowing about the initiatives taken by Tobago Cricket Board (TTCB).
One of article in that site

 
 

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