By blackmac10 on

Hi all, I am new to Drupal. 1 day old. I am trying to get the Jobsearch module to work. The documentation provided with it is very poor! Has anyone used this module? I have also downloaded Views and CCK modules. Can anyone give me any advice or tips on getting this module to work please?

I post a job as a story and there is a link underneath which says "Apply for Job" when clicked it says "You need to upload resume" I click on that and then it asks me to create a page or a story! Would you believe it!?

Here is some of the documentation: "1. Go to Administer -> Site Building -> Modules, and enable Job and Resume.Optionally, if you have the Job access and Resume access modules, enable them as well". Well, where do I get the Job access and Resume access modules from?? i don't think they exist!!

I'm really baffled now and feel like I have wasted 2 days of my life...

Please save me Drupallers!!!!!!!!!

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wisdom’s picture

wisdom commented

The same frustration I experienced when I try to use this module. But the good thing is it is the only module I found in Drupal contributed module which I experience this way.

The person who develops it he suggested a paid customisation. In my opinion if it is a contributed module to the community even if it does not have full features the module should atleast be usable to a particular user group. But currently I do not think it is a usable module. In addition if you want to programmatically make it usable it is hard to understand.

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pwolanin commented

You must be new to Drupal, if you are complaining about wasting just 2 days of your life...

Note on download page: "These contributed modules are not part of any official release and may not be optimized or work correctly."

So, you will need to take some time to test and investigate any contrib modules you wish to use. Look in the relevant issue queue and see if it's being updated/fixed when there are problems, etc. You need to determine whether a) the module works b) whether the maintainer(s) are active and will fix bugs c) whether it is likely to get updated for the next version of Drupal.

If you have problems - post an issue to the issue queue and either subscribe to that queue or check it regularly.

you might find some relevant info here, for example, in the support queue for that module:

http://drupal.org/project/issues/jobsearch?categories=support&states=all

see also:

http://drupal.org/handbook/is-drupal-right-for-you
http://drupal.org/best-practices

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blackmac10 commented

Thanks for your replys,

Yes I am new to Drupal, after spending a few days debating whether to use joomla or Drupal I chose Drupal. I am glad that I did too! Although I have less hair now and I have ripped quite a bit out! Lol

The only thing is that I am disapointed with the Job Search mod. If the guy who developed it wanted money for it he should not put it in the contributed modules??

Can anyone help me in finding a similar module to create a job site? How have other people got on with this module? Anyone got full funcionality out of the contributed module ie. everything that is described in its description?

Thanks guys.

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pwolanin commented

It's not too unusual for people to contribute modules that have been sponsored. However, since the developer's goal is obviously to satisfy the paying sponsor, they functionality that the module provides may be incomplete without additional customization or a complicated or opaque setup procedure. The module code is there for you (or anyone) to take and improve, of course, so even a module that's not perfect can be a very good starting point.

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klance commented

I understand that the developer's client is paying him to develop this module to their specifications, but those specifications don't sound particularly unique to that organization, and considering that they've contracted him to develop a Drupal module, I'd say there's a good chance they're using Drupal--a fully-functional release of Drupal, that is, FOR FREE--not to mention a bunch of other people's modules that they've generously contributed to the community in fully-functional form. This irked me when I saw it, too. Either send them a bill, or cut them a limited-functionality version of Drupal that they have to pay to unlock. So much for the the open-source ideology.

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joachim commented

It would be good if the contributor put a warning about this on the module's project page!

As a rule of thumb, I avoid module that don't have a link to a documentation page in the handbook.

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mvhanson commented

God what an awful headache this was to put together (www.governmenttraveljobs.com)

It took me about 30 hours of pretty hard going to get it all together.

And then after I was all done, I had to go back and do a part of it all over again because TinyMCE was screwing things up. So I had to install FCK and go with that.

So if anybody wants the scoop on how to do this without having to reinvent the wheel, just let me know. Feel free to explore the site, sign up for a job account and so on.

The Recruiter side is also pretty good and it has views to see public resumes and to activate/deactivate listings.

Haven't gotten around to "area" searches or searching by zip code. I'm totally brain dead at this point.

Enjoy -- feel free to ask any questions you may have.

Best,
MVH

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ram0135 commented

Hey MVH,

I have been trying to use this job module to our site pretty much so we can repost jobs from other sources with links to the relevant job posting &/or simply how to get in touch with the original poster (our site isn't primarily a job search site, just general info).

I have literally pulled my hair out in frustration. Right now, I'm just trying to code my own solution, not really working..

So if I may ask, I would love if you could shed some light on how you went about doing your site's job functions.

Thanks,
Ram0135

ram0135[[at]]gmail[[dot]]com

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wisdom commented

The job search module is not simple to use and besides the features you get is very limited. But it is a marvelous start and its beauty is it is highly integrated with the drupal system and any courageous person can lift it up to any level.

If you really need to get feature rich job posting website you may like to build additional feature upon it or seek help from the developer.

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Colorao commented

MVH === In June 2007 played with the jobsearch module. I got it to work. But got a problem. I wanted customers to post their jobs first then pay for them. But the module was asking for the money 1st then the client could post the jobs.

I loved your site the simplicity and the form. What other nodes did you used?
I learned to use the CCK. It seems the theme ReepleTheme is nice.

Your steps will be useful.

Thank you.

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julius.bichage commented

Hi mvhanson

Am thinkin of doing a project of this nature using drupal.
I will definately need to be assisted.
I will look at your website and see what you have done. I will contact you for help soon.

Julius

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kbahey commented

The job access and resume access modules have been in the repository for more than 6 months, so that is a moot point. There are no unreleased add ons for the job search.

Apart from that, you have to know CCK and use it to build the resume and job content types, then you have to know views, and use it to create the lists you want. If you want, you can use the location module too.

So, the hard part is that you have to install, learn and use several modules that are external to job search, and the learning curve for this. This is not an issue with the job search set of modules.
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timmadden commented

After a FEW days of playing around with the job search module, I am more than happy with it. It does exactly what it says it does, and performs very well. As said in a few posts above, you will need to know views and CCK to get the full job search functions going on.

cheers

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spabhat commented

Tim,

I really appreciate your efforts in getting the Job Search module running.

I am bit new to this and it would be helpful if you share how this is done.
Could you please post the steps involved in getting the Job Search to work?

Enjoy,
Prakash

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richardmclarke commented

Hi I am new to Drupal too and was wondering if you could let me know how to get the module working. i.e. what do yo uhave to do in CCK and views?

thanks,

RIchard

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Zoologie.de commented

I have built a complete job website + employer posting + resume posting + e-commerce + mail inclusion to start get the system going so it doesn't look so empty.

See http://jobs.biologie.de/jobs/

Contact me if you are interested.

So it's not a joke at all...

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consultants411 commented

hi:
I am new to drupal and love everything on it... I have downloaded the job search module but apparantly I have version 6 and i can not find the instructions to install it... Does anyone have instructions for it or the link to the correct version for the job search...
Please advise
Thanks
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wisdom commented

I do not think the job module has yet been ported to Drupal 6. Check the module website and probably the developer may also give you some words here about the status of the module to get ported to Drupal 6 which I am also interested to hear about.

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tcibah commented

Greetings,
We are looking for a proven job system on Drupal, similar to what you described. We visited your site but due to language, we could not get information about it. How do we go from here?
Regards

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hadders commented

I'm trying to integrate a simple job application function into a site I'm developing. The jobs are work experience placements for students.

I've tried a few related modules for this, but they either don't do what I want, or are for Drupal5.x.

Here's how far I am -

I have content types for :
Employers - content type has simply fields for name, address, email, etc
Work Placements - content type has "to" and "from" dates (date), employer (nodereference - Employer), student allocated (userreference) and auto nodetitles
work placement applications - content type has Work placement (nodereference) and a text field for reason for applying.

Work flow is thus:
Staff add a list of employers (as nodes). Staff then add work placements (as nodes, referencing Employers). Students can view employers and placements and create applications (nodes referencing placements). Staff can then decide to allocate a student to a placement (edit original placement referencing a user)

The problems I have are:
Students can still create applications for placements already allocated (nodes are still seen as available).
I cannot work out how to create an "apply for this" link on each placement to apply for that particular placement (and not have to choose one from a dropdown list).

Have I completely overcomplicated this?
Is this kind of thing even remotely possible using Drupal-6.2 CCK and views?
Ta..

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leerees commented

Unfortunately the module isn't really functional in the real world.

The major problem is that there is no way for job seekers to view their resume once they've created it, so if they want to change something they can't. As far as the user is concerned, they've filled out a form and the data has disappeared into oblivion. Most people would have given up by now. The other annoying issue is once they've filled out the resume they are not redirected back to the job, so with no status notification they are left not knowing if they've filled out the resume or applied for the job.

The first human instinct here is to try again, a few times until they "get it right", after much playing about the user eventually realises he can create a resume by clicking create content, of course they create their resume and the same thing happens, gone into oblivion. The confusion happens when they apply for their next job and are now presented with an edit screen showing their 5 previous "lost" resumes they created trying to figure out why the system "isn't saving" their resumes.

The real questions here are why on earth isn't there a link to the edit resume screen in the users control panel and why all the confusion with multiple resumes, just have ONE! Simplicity is the key not features. I really wish I could fix these problem but i was unable to and i did spend 2 days trying messing around with views, relationships and all sort of stuff I had to learn by reading forum posts and sparce documentation. Maybe a programmer could do this easily but I couldn't. If I find a fix I'll post it but I think we must accept the fact that the developer wants paying, and thus I'd recommend trying something else, there's loads of non drupal job script modules that are free.

To a member of the public the problems listed above makes the site completely un-usable and thus what really happens is they've long since given up and gone to somebody elses website.

If anybody has a fix for my findings, I think it would be highly beneficial for the community if they were to share it here in this thread. I've seen lots of people asking this question around the net and as yet nobodies came up with a solution.

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Anonymous (not verified) commented

Do you expect a handout or something?