is there a plug in for dreamweaver (or other HTM wysiwyg authoring prog)so i can make my own layouts and change the ones I using.
etc.

also im finding the .css not as easy as it should be... there seems to be sub css for each module or is that generated from the one sheet? I assume that each theme has it own set ... but whn I break them down they have ONE.. but when I get a report of styles used... there is multi... is that because the modules a are pulling divs and attributes form the style sheet as it needs and making little ones on the client side?
Im still in my first week of drupal and after fixing up one of my joomla sites and tehn comming back to drupal... Im totally lost...lol (please feel free to laff and my swollen brain.. but buy me a drink will ya)

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anthonylicari’s picture

I use dreamweaver, but I also use WAMP on my machine so I can build themes and test stuff locally. If you want to view anything in dreamweaver beyond just the code view, it's not going to happen. Even if you hit F12 it will still ask you for a testing server which is what you would set up with wamp. If you set it up right though you will never have to "put" any files, any time you hit save it will auto update in your browser for localhost.

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yogi_sydbma’s picture

yeah of course ... it wont work unless you replace your index file on the server... but your layout should show ok. with the php code of what area is placed inside each position... but what is the plug-in?

and where do I find it.

a plug in should just insert the footer or head or left or right user 1 or user15 ... but is there a plug-in?

a quick learn teacher is hard to find.

im very aware that even saving wont make it work. but exchanging the current one with it should...
and yes.. back up backup back up...
umm what is WAMP?

anthonylicari’s picture

So don't expect a plugin for Drupal.

WAMP: Windows, Apache, MySQL, PHP

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tdimg’s picture

1. No plugin available, as far as I know you need to get used to the code view and learn the template language (phpTemplate). If that isn't for you, try another template engine, Smarty to be precise (plugins available for DW, but not sure how those fit in with Drupal). But I'm also not sure whether this is already working for Drupal 5 and whether there are already Smarty themes available, I haven't used it in a long time, ever since I switched to Drupal 5 to be precise.

2. Quite a few modules add their own css to the code. Somewhere in the settings you can set it up so that they either get processed as one big css, or be left as individual css files. Grab yourself Firefox and Firebug and you'll be able to exactly determine where and how everything works.

One last word, never change any core files, almost everything is possible to achieve within the scope of theming, for some fancy things you might want to either use an existing module or develop one yourself.

yogi_sydbma’s picture

Trying to make my own themes as its what I do.. this reverse engineering concept is fine.. and how hard could it be to chop up a exported drupal page to edit my css and html i use WEB DEVELOPER (http://chrispederick.com/work/web-developer/)for fire fox. I find it a really neat helper tool making and hacking themes and css and html and ohhh just about any other web server style file

my favorite is "Display ID and Classes" nothing is easier. Also you can export all the css files associated with any said page.

Its a resource that I have been sing instead of FireBug, "6 of one , half a dozen of another"

yeah I don't wanna mess with core files nor make new mods... I just wanna make sweet themes... with both style and function... without looking like a block CMS program type of layout. Ive not seen very may sassy themes for drupal... only basic ones that I have noticed... I have seen only one theme that rocked me but it was soooooo not me I could not download it... well i could but i would not use it.

Copyright is a ponderous thing... I guess just accepting where you got your bits is important.

tdimg’s picture

Really, got no idea what you want to say here?

A few notes, Drupal is quite flexible, you can achieve whatever layout you want. All you need to know is how Drupal (via php) is generating the content, which variables you need for which part. Some of this flexibility comes from theme-able functions, so you need to get to know the template.php file. And there's no need to copy anybody, just use your imaging software to create your layout, develop your html/css layout and then fill it with the Drupal commands.

By the way, I know the web developer toolbar, but since Firebug has developed as much as it has, I haven't used it for much recently. Firebug isn't reverse engineering either, it's working on your template on the fly, and they're not really the same either...

anthonylicari’s picture

I build themes. I use dreamweaver. I typically have everything open, so my style.css, my page.tpl.php, my node.tpl.php etc.. etc.. all in code view of course. I just build from here. If you install WAMP you will be able to run apache on your computer and you can build themes locally.

If you think theming is still drag and drop or something, not sure what you are wanting with a plug in, I would suggest picking up the book "Pro Drupal Development" and they have a section in there about theming that is pretty good.
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sherifmayika’s picture

hi,
Though I have not named the project, I have been working on a dreamweaver extension for drupal templates. Now it is in final test stage. It will be availabe for download very soon.

Views and coments are welcome

http://dreamweaverdrupalthemeextension.blogspot.com isthe project blog

Drucordially,

sherif,
developer, India

sherif@sherifamyika.com
www.sherifamyika.com

shawngo’s picture

Is this what you're looking for? Hope this helps someone.

http://xtnd.us/dreamweaver/drupalapi

I still haven't figured out how to have PHP highlighting for .module files in NetBeans 6.5. Anybody?

yogi_sydbma’s picture

and thank you