No way to edit fields once in a fieldgroup - Formfilter and Formdefaults module conflict

I don't see a way to edit the fieldgroups themselves, either.

This works on a vanilla CCK install.

The list of fields on this overview page is built by building a 'fake' node form, and retrieving the fields that show up, so my guess would be this is caused by one of your modules messing with fieldgroups in node forms ?

Turning this into a support request for now.

Yes - fields inside fieldgroups still have their weights dropdonws and configure / remove links

Before I start disabling modules, any ideas as to which ones might be likely to cause the problem? Views modules? node modules?

I just updated to CCK 5.x-1.6-1, but that didn't help the fieldgroups show up to be edited.

Hard to say for sure, but 'node modules' seem more likely to trigger something like that than Views, for instance

Just ran into a problem which is likely to be related. CCK Fields Phone and Email both disappear on the editing page even before they were put into groups, though they show up when inputting data into the node. Unfortunately, there's no way to control where they show up since I can't access their priority weights.

I turned off the module Field groups, and they still aren't visible.

Also, I can't delete fields and groups that I don't want to use anymore. They don't show up on the MANAGE FIELDS or DISPLAY FIELDS pages, but they're still in the node.

Just wondering: The status says "Active (needs more info)". What "more info" is needed? Let me know and I will try to answer.

It's been four months since we first mentioned this, and I was really hoping to get this bug taken care of so I can use the CCK fields to gather data, but it's hard to do much when I can't rearrange the data fields.

This works fine in most situations, so there is something in your setup that is causing this. The 'more info' is that you need to try to narrow down what module(s) are causing the problem by disabling them to see when the problem goes away.

The most likely candidates to be creating problem are non-core CCK modules and/or any module that alters the node form (since the node form is the basis of the layout on this page). This doesn't happen with a core CCK installation, so you don't need to test the core CCK modules.

There's nothing else anyone can do with this until you do the homework of turning off all the modules that might be causing the problem to see if it goes away, then gradually adding them back in to see when the problem re-surfaces, to figure out what module(s) are causing your problem.

Ok, I've disabled the non-core CCK modules. Did it one at a time, checking to see if Group Editing returned, and it didn't. What else is a node-altering form?

On a weird and possibly related note, I was trying to modify the field groups and since I can't access their descriptions and weights directly, I used "Form Labels and text" to get to them. That was working fine for a while, but then I tried to edit one of the Field Text Boxes. All of a sudden, all the names and descriptions on all the text boxes in that node were identical. Number fields and Select lists and other field-types were not affected. The Field Boxes have the same label only when ADDING that node. In display mode, they seem perfectly fine.

What other non-CCK modules are you using? Some other module is interfering with things here. And where the heck do you see 'Form labels and text' and how is it you are editing the field text boxes? I don't understand what you're doing?

Other modules installed and enabled are:
- CivicRM and CiviCRM OG Sync
-EVENTS (basic, allday, views, repeat, repeat views, RSVP, volunteer)
- IMAGE (attach, gallery, import, assist, upload)
- NODE PROFILE
- ORGANIC GROUPS (groups, calendar, subgroups)
- MISC (advanced contact, advanced user management, automatic nodetitles, clone, contact list, copyright, date api, directory, formdefaults, formfilter, maxlength, members, pathauto, printer-friendly page, profile csv, profileplus, site user list, site user list roles, tinyMCE, token, URL Icon, webform)
-USER INTERFACE (External links)
- VIEWS (calendar, calendar ical, Editview, views, views RSS, views themewizard, Views UI)

"where the heck do you see 'Form labels and text' and how is it you are editing the field text boxes"

I installed the modules

formdefaults
5.x-1.x-dev Modifies help text and desciriptions on any from in drupal.

Formfilter
5.x-1.x-dev Provides tools and a UI for simplifying and altering forms.

They let you modify the descriptions and weight values of items on any form.

Karen is right in the steps she proposed : you have to disable all non-cck contrib modules, and nail down the module that is conflicting by renabling them one by one...

I'd say those last 2 (formdefaults, formfilter) might probably be the first candidates to try. Not sure about how civiCRM plays with node forms. maxlength ?

Good luck...

(edit : fixed language typos)

YES! Thank you.

When I disabled the Formfilter Module, the Field Groups editor returned.
When I disabled the FormDefaults Module, the titles came back properly.

That's good to know. Those Form changers are handy modules, but best left disabled unless needed, it seems.

Thanks again!

@LWVMD : glad it worked :-)
Could you please open new issues for those modules, reporting the behaviour you experienced ?
If fixing this requires some help from content.module, we'll let module maintainers report back.

I opened an issue for FormFilter, but Formdefaults doesn't seem to have any feedback links associated with it.

'report new bug' link on http://drupal.org/project/formdefaults ? ;-)