It was often suggested (for example at [1] and [2]) to change the "story" content type to "article" or "news". "Article" is much more self-explaining and it's used in most other content management systems. "News" would be quite self-explaining too, because it's quite logical that "news" are promoted on the front page.

If a new Drupal user has ever set up another content management system or a "bigger" blog system (like WordPress) it will be much easier for him to understand what to do to create for example an blog entry or just a page visible on the front page (please see [3], I will file this later).

[1] http://groups.drupal.org/node/7043
[2] http://drupal.org/node/91033

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marco.robotangel’s picture

Bevan’s picture

Version: 6.x-dev » 7.x-dev

tag for newbie
needs to be for d7 due to lang string freeze

catch’s picture

Changing the machine readable name of this will also break some contrib stuff (for example views node type arguments and filters) - so would need to be documented carefully.

No major preference between article or news.

moshe weitzman’s picture

to me, this is change for the sake of change. well, "news" is actually worse than "story" since a single post can be correctly called a story but can't grammatically be called a news.

catch’s picture

That's a good point, I think 'article' has a lot of advantages though.

Bevan’s picture

I agree that 'news' is not better than story. I think that 'article' is better than 'story'. This is of course somewhat subjective though.

Bevan’s picture

GreenJelly has strong opinions about this and also suggested 'article': http://groups.drupal.org/node/8377

GreenJelly’s picture

I support this change.... Sign me up to a petition:)

Anonymous’s picture

Status: Active » Needs review
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Changed story to article.

keith.smith’s picture

Status: Needs review » Needs work

In

+      'description' => st("An <em>article</em>, similar in form to a <em>page</em>, is ideal for creating and displaying content that informs or engages website visitors. Press releases, site announcements, and informal blog-like entries may all be created with an <em>article</em> entry. By default, a <em>article</em> entry is automatically featured on the site's initial home page, and provides the ability to post comments."),

that last instance of "By default, a ..." should probably be an "an" as well.

(It is also worth noting that the "entry" stuff in the descriptions (with the exception of blog entry) is mainly there because it sounded so odd to just say "story" in the first place.)

Edit: And, by the way, "article" would be a significant improvement over "story", IMHO.

Anonymous’s picture

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Grammar fix made.

keith.smith’s picture

Small semi-offtopic comment, but in a quick review of "HTML 5 differences from HTML 4"[1] I note that in section "3.1 New Elements," there is the addition:

"article - represents an independent piece of content of a document, such as a blog entry or newspaper article."

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-html5-diff-20080122/

GreenJelly’s picture

I know allot of these issues sound so small but each small problem adds up to a major issue. Even within the API, we must be vigilant about the names for functions and classes. As we grow, development using these naming conventions will become a larger issue. "I dont think we should ever say, thats too minor for it to be an issue"

We should do away with separate code for "Articles" and "Blogs", and simply include a way to add new simple nodes named anything you want... CCK is probably too much for allot of simple text, but maybe using cck to manage this content in future versions is the way to go!

AKA code unification... Multiple ways to do the same thing leads to undesirable complexity... Using 2 sets of code to do the same thing means 2x the maintenance. Just an idea...

Pancho’s picture

+1: I agree with most if not all commenters here, that "article" is much better than "story".

"News" on the other hand is no good choice for three reasons:

  • "News" has a singular<->plural problem (see #4)
  • "News" is much too specific. The "story" aka "article" node type is not only usable for news, it is the default content type for everything but static pages.
  • "News" tends to be confounded with aggregated news or rss feeds.

My three-and-a-half cents... ;)

birdmanx35’s picture

Title: Changing "story" content type to "article" or "news" » Usability: Change "story" content type to "article" or "news"

Article is good, news is bad.

webchick’s picture

Component: story.module » user interface text
webchick’s picture

Status: Needs review » Reviewed & tested by the community

Incidentally, applied, works, good idea. RTBC.

GreenJelly’s picture

Well you guys enjoy, obviously the higher ups have decided that my contributions here are not worth it.

Goodbye

jcbrew’s picture

I think "article" is better then "story".

catch’s picture

Title: Usability: Change "story" content type to "article" or "news" » UMN Usability: Change "story" content type to "article" or "news"

This was very confusing during formal usability testing, and I think calling it 'article' might have helped a little (although 'page' caused just as many, if not more problems). Another +1.

Dries’s picture

Status: Reviewed & tested by the community » Fixed

Committed to CVS HEAD. Thanks.

Anonymous’s picture

Status: Fixed » Closed (fixed)

Automatically closed -- issue fixed for two weeks with no activity.

mrarsen’s picture

I support this change.... Sign me up to a petition:)