i have payed for hosting with domain.com but when i try and upgrade my drupal site it gets errors and when i try to go back to the old version it just dosen't work (i've had this problem before and tech support helped a little but it always happens again)
is this just a problem with domain.com? does anyone use the automated drupal setups with other host?

should i just do everything manually? or get a new hosting service?
how do you guys setup your drupal sites? what host do you use?

i just want to make sure i get off to a good start and dont run into problems when i have large sites going live

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jaypan’s picture

Best to do it manually. It's pretty easy once you get used to it. I can have a full fresh Drupal install running in less than 2 minutes.

Contact me to contract me for D7 -> D10/11 migrations.

supra21’s picture

dam thats fast ... well i still gotta find a decent host, read the install instruction for drupal ...that should take me 1 minute and another minute to install right? lol jk jk

i'll try a manual install on domain.com just gotta delete everything (it was just a test site when i got the errors)

jamesoakley’s picture

To be fair, Jay can probably do it in 2 minutes because he's done a few in his time ;)

The main benefit of doing it manually is that it doesn't take you two minutes, as you have to understand what you're doing. There is no one step that is particularly tricky, and the whole thing is fairly simple. If you get stuck, just ask on here - as you've seen, this forum is a pretty helpful place.

Then, having understood how a Drupal installation is set up, upgrading to a newer release will be much easier. You'll know which files come with Drupal, and which ones you altered, and therefore you'll know which files you need to make sure you don't lose.

Script installers (my favourite is Softaculous) do a pretty decent job at Drupal. But whether they'll get a core upgrade right depends on how you've set the site up and what other files you may have added. Sometimes they will, sometimes they won't. And when it comes to upgrading, by far the best thing is to understand what's going on. And it's not hard.


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yngens’s picture

We use automated script to install Drupal for our clients and it is not a problem at all since we always keep updated our repository of Drupal distributions to the lates ones. You are welcome to give a try to our services.

supra21’s picture

well im definitely not useing auto scripts anymore after i did a search in the forum for manual vs auto almost everyone said manual

and its not that hard i got drupal working with WAMP i just gotta figure out how to move it to my current host
correct me if im wrong but is it just the drupal files and the database that i have to move?

jaypan’s picture

Move the file system over, and install Drupal as a fresh install. Then install the Backup and Migrate module on both your local, and remote. Use that module to take a backup from your local installation, and then use the module to install that backup on the remote installation. This is the easiest way.

Contact me to contract me for D7 -> D10/11 migrations.

jamesoakley’s picture

I see that Backup and Migrate Files only has a -dev release. I've only ever used B+M for database backups, partly because I wasn't sure if the Files extending module is ready for production or not.

Have you used Backup and Migrate Files to transfer all of the files across as well, or is that best done by hand?


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jaypan’s picture

I've never used the files module. I actually use Drush for syncing files. But for databases, B&M is definitely the easiest way to move a site between servers.

Contact me to contract me for D7 -> D10/11 migrations.

supra21’s picture

is drush another module?

this the b&m your talking about?
http://drupal.org/project/backup_migrate

jaypan’s picture

Drush is a command line tool, allowing Drupal actions, such as downloading and enabling modules, to be done using the command line (terminal) rather than through the web interface.

And yes, that is the B&M module I mentioned. Probably the only module I install on every site I build.

Contact me to contract me for D7 -> D10/11 migrations.