Would it be possible to add the <big> and <small> HTML tags to the input filters here on DO?
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Would it be possible to add the <big> and <small> HTML tags to the input filters here on DO?
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Comment #1
nancydruComment #2
gerhard killesreiter commentedWhere would you want to use them?
Comment #3
nancydruMostly in book pages or project pages. But on occasion, possibly in a forum post or comment for emphasis.
Comment #4
johnnocSemantically speaking, it may be appropriate to add these HTML tags here on d.o.
One may argue that for point of emphasis, the html tag
<em>should be used. On the other hand, there are quite a few users (including me) who use the html tag<sub>to visualize the unimportance of a word, phrase or sentence. This is widely used in user signatures for example or side comments. The absence of the<big>and<small>tags tend to give users (who are supposed to be aware of the proper use of html tags because they're webdesigners and/or developers) an alibi in producing semantically incorrect html by using tags for presentational/ visual purposes only, not considering that the sub tag is meant for subscript texts.Moreover, d.o. is a text-intensive site so IMHO, there must be an abundance of text-based tags. I second nancyw's request. If not on the «Filtered HTML» input format, at least on the «Documentation» input format.
Comment #5
keith.smith commentedHonestly, until I saw this issue awhile ago, I didn't even know there were big and small tags.
As a small aside, I did read through this document[1], titled "HTML 5 differences from HTML 4", earlier today.
It notes that "The small element now represents small print (for side comments and legal print)." and "The following elements are not in HTML 5 because their effect is purely presentational and therefore better handled by CSS: ... big ... ."
[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-html5-diff-20080122/
Comment #6
johnnocI had a quick browse thru xhtml specs and both big and small are not deprecated.
Anyways, I may agree on the possible deprecation of the big tag on HTML 5, as I said on my earlier post, the tag for emphasizing text is em. Not considering the big tag for the input format here is forward thinking.
And I also agree that the small tag is still necessary, therefore it is being considered not to be deprecated for HTML5. Well...there is a valid reason for adding the small tag here then... so I will not use the sub tag for side comments anymore ;-)
Comment #7
nancydruBig may be better handled by CSS, but we users have no way of doing so. And "deprecated" is somewhat relative. In theory bold (<b>) is deprecated but it is still widely used and I've seen no browsers indicate they have any intention of dropping it. Further bold and italics are available in the DO input formats. I use big and small less for emphasis and more for when it's more trouble than it's worth to mess with CSS, if I have access to it.
Comment #8
drummDoes the documentation project have any style guide which would document use of <big> and <small>? How would they be documented so they are used consistently?
I would not like to see deprecated tags like this creep in. I would like to see well-constructed HTML and CSS to make it look good. I realize CSS may be a bottleneck, but there are people, like me, who can implement those changes. But, I would like to see drafted documentation for writers before implementing CSS changes.
Comment #9
Wolfflow commentedHi glad to join.
@drumm that is a tryout project of mine, even that I'm NEN (speak no english native).
-All please forgive uncomplete documentation and grammar misstakes! (I'm proud to be a Beginner!) :-))
examples : http://drupal.adaccs.at/members_table
for those that don't want to take the risk of going to the above mentioned address I supply screenshots!
Cheers
Comment #10
Wolfflow commentedFYI: as I found that using the
<sub>Tag in documentation you have a way to display smaller text as for is usefully in building tables and Notes that otherwise disrupt layouts on D.O. Handbook, I think that this issue can be closed.Reopen if needed.
Cheers