Ok, I am very new at this and my hosting company offers FANTASTICO installation of Drupal 4.5
Its great since I dont have to do anything...everything is done for me.

Questions...and I am sorry if this is elsewhere...

1. How hard is it to update to 4.6 since Fantasico doesnt have it..and I think I must do it manually- can a newbie do it?

2. Are PHPTemplate Engine hard to use and understand? (See next question for why asked)

3. I have read a forum about the Drupal official theme is not available for download? Is this correct? I really like the clean interface, blue, blocks/module placements and color etc. Also, I believe the theme uses the template engine.

I know that is actually a lot of info to cover in 3 points, but really excited to try and use Drupal...

Thanks in advance.

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sepeck’s picture

1. It is easy and hard so it depends on your experiance with CMS's in general, web sites, how technically proficient you are.... Read the admin handbook. http://drupal.org/node/257 In paticular, read the Best Practices link in my sig. Get comfortable with manging your site. Use the time now. I found the core update easy. I ran into some issues with updating the contributed image module, but I don't have a typical Drupal install and was trying something complex.

2. PHPTemplate is easy to use and there is an extensive section in the handbook. Lots of theme's use PHPTemplate, you could download them and compare them to the guide.

3. Blue Beach is not now, nor will it be available in the near future for download, see other long discussions. 4.6 has a much easier placement for block control.

If you haven't done much with your site and have phpAdmin. How about this. Wipe your install. Try the instructions for a 'clean' install of Drupal 4.6. If it works for you, then your upgrade worries are gone until 4.7 :). If it doesn't work out for you, then you can always run the Fantastico installer :). (Make note of the information in includes/conf.php for use in site/default/settings.php in 4.6). If you've done a lot already, then Start below with testing offline backup and restore's.

-sp
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Test site...always start with a test site.
Drupal Best Practices Guide

-Steven Peck
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Test site, always start with a test site.
Drupal Best Practices Guide

freedomr’s picture

Believe it or not, after much much trial and error...reading posts in the forum, uninstalling the old version, installing it again...etc. etc. I tried sending a note to my hosting company since I used FANTASTICO and asked if or when they may update the version...and guess what...within min. they responded back letting me know the update was ready....logged into my cpanel/fantastico... and sure enough it showed that there was an update I could run. Tried it...failed...but that was probably because I had been tinkering with it. Decided to wipe clean...logged back into fatastico...and the CURRENT version was there now.... Long story short...IT WORKS.

Thanks for the input. Now time to play and learn with configuring my site to my needs...playing with themes, blocks, colors etc.

PS- ultrasurge.com is my provider. Help/Customer service has been phenominal.

-E

sepeck’s picture

First things first. Figure out how to backup your site. Now while it's small.

-sp
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Test site...always start with a test site.
Drupal Best Practices Guide

-Steven Peck
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Test site, always start with a test site.
Drupal Best Practices Guide

freedomr’s picture

Yeah, definitely a good suggestion.... not sure exactly how to do it tho and what to do if i need to restore... guess i need to do some more research

laura s’s picture

Most hosting services offer this. It is free software. You log in. Select your database (the whole thing), select "export," and dump your database to your local hard drive. Give it a date so you know what you have later. Do it regularly.

If your host's configuration allows it, you might be able to do a periodic backup automatically. Usually they offer options to save to the server (not very helpful in crashes, but could be helpful for corruption issues). Some will let you have the database emailed to you. You should note that that is not secure.

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Emilio-1’s picture

What if the database is changed during backup? Will phpmyadmin take care of that problem too or will something bad happen to the backup?

Mahatma’s picture

... get your editor ready. Which do you use? There are several free ones good for editing PHP ...