Administration theme problems - Default site theme still shows on admin/build/block .. why?
motivez - May 9, 2008 - 04:37
I have an Administration Theme I use for the site admin tasks, it's much cleaner.. and my normal site isn't designed for administration tasks
However, every time I go to administer blocks, the theme changes from the Administration Theme, to the default site theme.. why? And how can I fix this?
Thanks!
Anyone? I'm currently unable
Anyone? I'm currently unable to really administer blocks because of this bug
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I think the reason for that
I think the reason for that is so that you can immediately view the layout of your blocks as you are rearranging them from that page. I don't know of any easy way to change that behavior.
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That is the anticipated behavior because when you go to modify the blocks the system assumes you're modifying the blocks on the default public theme. This way, you can see what blocks you have and where they are. And since this is the only administration page that does this, it usually isn't a problem for most people.
~silverwing
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I mean, I want to modify the
I mean, I want to modify the blocks for the default, public theme, but I don't want to have to look at that theme while I'm administering blocks, that seems to be the whole point of an "Administration" theme to me?
Is there any way to get around this?
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no, the idea of this is so that you can see the theme that you are trying to adjust blocks in, which seems to make perfect sense.
Example, some people may not be using an admin theme with a right or left sidebar. That said, the admin theme would hide those blocks if this theme were used in the path you want.
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I mean, I want to modify the
You only have to look at that theme while administering the blocks. So you know where the regions are. That's the only time you'll see the default theme in the admin section.
This is all done on purpose.
Seriously, it's one page. And unless all you do in your admin section is change blocks, I don't see the problem.
~silverwing
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That's the problem though.
That's the problem though. Because of the width (and other design elements) of my public theme, I'm unable to see the entire Administer blocks section, it's blocked by other areas of the page.. the buttons don't show up, etc
That's why I wanted a different theme for Administration tasks.
If I want to see how a block change looks on the live page, I can go view the live page after I've made a change, it's not that difficult
Agreed! This needs a fix!
Agreed! This needs a fix!
I had this problem recently
I had this problem recently and found a work-around that might help you. In your normal site theme you can create an admin template - page-admin.tpl.php
What I did next was copy the page.tpl.php from a default theme (I used Garland I think) and pasted it into my new page-admin.tpl.php theme. I also copied the style.css file from the stock Garland theme and created a new file called admin.css in my normal site theme folder. Make sure your page-admin.tpl.php calls to this stylesheet.
Then when you go to admin->site configuration->administration theme I could set the admin theme to my normal site theme.
This fixed the issues I was having, hope it helps you!
Hi Hollybeary, I've tried
Hi Hollybeary,
I've tried your solution and it doesn't work for me.
Problem is that my page.tpl.php has different regions set than the original garland page.tpl.php now used as page-admin.tpl.php.
This results in a very messy page!
The underlaying problem is that Drupal is crap at setting a special theme for the administrator! Pardon my French, but it is!
The way Drupal now works is combining the backend with the frontend... works great if you build one theme for both ends but who does that?
It would be nice to build one admin theme you can use in all your websites and a site specific theme for the front.
If you log in as admin you should get the admin theme... ALWAYS! And not switch back to front end theme upon save or when changing a block!
Most websites, well at least the ones I've made in the past, have such a layout that there is no space to fit all the back end features, menus, forms etc!
Anyway... that's just my 5 cents...
Cheers
wow--- a single page doesn't
wow--- a single page doesn't function the way you want it to function for your particular use case (it's not broken, it's working precisely as designed) and that equates to "Drupal is crap at setting a special theme for the administrator"?? That hardly seems accurate or fair and just so you know, those kind of sweeping generalizations and baseless criticisms aren't likely to garner you much support in the forums. And as usual, it's comes from someone who's tracker demonstrates not even 1 minuscule contribution back to the community.
As for the way the block page works, I agree it's not always optimal. However, your preference is also incorrect-- there are valid use cases for both methods, therefore it should be presented as an option. If it's that important to you, instead of posting "me too" complaints, I would suggest a more constructive approach would be for you to check the issues queue for an existing issue and if none, file a new one.
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sorry
I appologize if my comment was too harsh! I should have used a different word setting... I'm just so frustrated after viewing hours of screencasts and reading tons of articles both online as in Drupal books that I can't seem to accomplish something which Drupal should be able to support with it's eyes closed, I know it's probably me... just got frustrated!
Yet, I must say that it's not very logical to me that if a systems gives you the option to set a different theme for an admin it only uses this setting partly.
I indeed have not contributed back to the community... yet! But I don't think I should start answering questions in forums if I'm not sure if I'll give the correct answer. I have however spoken to quicksketch of webform about contributing my solution to the problem I encountered there...
Pardon my French.... once again!
you could always just add
you could always just add the regions you need in the page-admin.tpl.php. That's the beauty of Drupal, you can fully customize every aspect of it to meet your individual needs. If the Garland theme doesn't have the same regions as your other theme, just change them.