require commenting for blogs aggregated in planet.drupal.org

Pasqualle - May 21, 2008 - 18:37
Project:Drupal.org infrastructure
Component:Other
Category:task
Priority:normal
Assigned:Amazon
Status:active
Description

Please do not allow blogs with disabled comments on drupal planet.

I have just read this article http://www.drupaltherapy.com/node/38, and I am feeling frustrated..

#1

greggles - May 21, 2008 - 18:59
Title:ban closed blogs from planet.drupal» require commenting for blogs aggregated in planet.drupal.org

While that frustrates me as well to see "closed", I'm not sure we should require people to allow commenting. One solution is that people who want to respond can write a post on their own blog. If that blog isn't in the planet - then it provides a perfect reason to get in.

Discussion can also happen in the forums, on groups.drupal.org, etc. If you want to draw more attention to a discussion in one of those places, again, blog about it and get that blog into the Planet.

I could still see us requiring that blogs in the planet allow comments, but I'd like to explore alternatives first.

#2

sepeck - May 21, 2008 - 19:02
Title:require commenting for blogs aggregated in planet.drupal.org» ban closed blogs from planet.drupal

This is something to consider. Having read the article now I feel your frustration as well.

Anyone else?

#3

VM - May 21, 2008 - 19:06

Agreed its frustrating.

user can't be changed to "people"? :smirk:

#4

dww - May 21, 2008 - 19:12
Status:active» won't fix

IMHO, no one should be forced to enable comments on their site if they don't want to. mollum or not, comments == spam and/or moderation time. If I want to add a feed to the planet, but I don't want to deal with public comments on my site (lord knows I have enough open faucets for feedback in my life), no one should stop me.

I'll be bold and "won't fix" this. I don't think we should enforce this as a requirement. There are plenty of other ways to respond to content on the web.

#5

Amazon - May 21, 2008 - 19:24

I've contacted the author of this blog post, asking him to respond in this issue. Of course there's nothing wrong with writing a response in your blog post.

Kieran

#6

merlinofchaos - May 21, 2008 - 19:33

Which works for those of us with planet-facing blogs, but we're not the majority. I know this kind of article is going to get lots of comments.

#7

merlinofchaos - May 21, 2008 - 19:33
Title:ban closed blogs from planet.drupal» require commenting for blogs aggregated in planet.drupal.org

Putting title change back; looks like it got lost in a crosspost.

#8

seaneffel - May 21, 2008 - 19:54
Assigned to:Anonymous» seaneffel
Status:won't fix» active

I'll be happy to switch on the commenting if folks want to discuss it. I had not done so because I wasn't emotionally prepared to fight viagra spam. Got a couple of tasks in the way and then I'll work this out.

On requiring planet blogs to enable comments, I think this would be a very poor choice. It is likely to cause some potential blog contributors to button up and submit nothing at all, and I don't think throwing up obstacles is a good community practice.

#9

sepeck - May 21, 2008 - 20:37
Status:active» won't fix

already marked as won't fixed once and several disagree with such a requirement. good enough.

#10

Pasqualle - May 21, 2008 - 20:46

I think blogs aggregated on drupal planet should be open, and the blog writer should be prepared to defend his opinion. If someone disable commenting, I feel like the writer just raised his personal opinion, but refuses any discussion about it. I can't argue with him, can't help him, raise concerns about the article, nor tell other readers that the article is good or misleading..

any comments (or discussions) that are not directly under the article, are just lost comments.

I really hate comments, and I agree with the famous quote "the comments on the release announcements definitely improved since they are disabled.", but there are places where comments should be required..

#11

seaneffel - May 23, 2008 - 05:12

Hey Pasq, I switched on the commenting on my blog if you would like to join me there for discussion. I hadn't considered allowing comments on the site at all so I am glad this came up. See you there.

#12

Pasqualle - October 17, 2008 - 19:34
Assigned to:seaneffel» Anonymous
Status:won't fix» active

http://www.dawhb.com/?p=437

This page states that uc_review module is an official d.o. review for Ubercart..

Please, someone shoot me.. arrgh.. I want to comment on that post!!!

#13

catch - October 17, 2008 - 19:49

Can we change this to 'require common sense' for blogs aggregated on planet?

#14

Amazon - October 17, 2008 - 20:09
Assigned to:Anonymous» Amazon

Emailed Dimitar author of http://www.dawhb.com

#15

Amazon - October 18, 2008 - 02:06

After a discussion with the author it's become clear the notion of a blog as a discussion is not the intention of this blog. So I've removed it from planet. We need to seriously reevaluate static aggregator feeds to content that is not part of a discussion.

#16

Pasqualle - October 18, 2008 - 02:54

Is there any documentation about planet.drupal.org? I can't find any..

#17

oadaeh - October 18, 2008 - 04:58

@Pasqualle: that was my point here: http://drupal.org/node/322666#comment-1064819

#18

catch - November 28, 2008 - 19:09

Here's a couple more without comments, they also have extremely poor quality content:
http://www.brightlemon.com/web-design/blog/?p=204
http://www.brightlemon.com/web-design/blog/?p=202

#19

Michelle - November 28, 2008 - 19:20

@catch - I was questioning whether those should be on Planet when I saw them this morning. Regardless of the comment settings, they don't seem to be adding any value.

Michelle

#20

greggles - November 28, 2008 - 19:32

Those posts are _horrible_ so I moved Bright Lemon to Drupal talk. The only mention of them is http://drupal.org/node/313436

#21

catch - November 28, 2008 - 19:39

Thanks Michelle, opened a webmasters issue #340318: Poor quality content on Planet

#23

leontong.brightlemon - October 30, 2009 - 22:49

Hi Catch/Michelle

This reminds me of a story Mark Boulton told at DrupalCon Paris. He found a highly innacurate blog post on a famous designer's blog - and twittered about it. That same day he received a response from said designer explaining that the post had been added by an intern and was indeed an embarassment.

Not being too pig headed to recognise self inflicted mistakes I have to agree that of the hundreds of blog posts on our site (and yes some - including the ones you pointed out - have been added by interns) there are one or two which aren't as useful to all audiences as everyone might like. I would still expect complete newbies to take interest in a summarised list of sites using Drupal.

We can't all write as well as Lullabot but I agree that even blogs need controlling and we have (since your comment dates) made inroads into this. I invite you to read:

Customizing Apache SOLR Search Results
http://www.brightlemon.com/knowledge-base/blog/customizing-apache-solr-s...

Creating A Custom Drupal Module That Provides A Save This Page Functionality
http://www.brightlemon.com/knowledge-base/blog/creating-custom-drupal-mo...

Jeff Eaton, Architecture Is For Everyone - Session Notes From DrupalCon Paris 2009
http://www.brightlemon.com/knowledge-base/blog/jeff-eaton-architecture-i...

and so on...

 
 

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