Should I start with ver 5.x?

AngelicLight - May 28, 2008 - 18:57

Hi, there,

I'm just starting to get to know Drupal through this site and forum.

I seem to notice modules and functionality that is not yet available for 6.x and I'm wondering if someone would really spell out the value of using 6.x over the latest 5.x release. I don't plan on doing any development, so the more pre-made (working) modules that are available, the better.

What would some of you more experienced users do if starting from scratch right now, knowing what you know. Would you stay on 5 or move to 6?

I guess I just don't want to be left in the cold if I go to 5 on things that I don't even recognize are in 6 yet, being as new as I am.

Thanks so much for any help and guidance,

- A

yes..it is true that Drupal

ravi_9793 - May 28, 2008 - 19:22

yes..it is true that Drupal 6.x dont have all modules available..than also I will suggest version 6.x
But if you want to make any specific type of website..than first search its all modules before starting 6.x version.

Thats my suggestion. wait for few more reply.

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Start with 6.x

user901 - May 28, 2008 - 19:46

my 2 cents!

Start with Drupal6.x unless your target is to go live in next few weeks. All the important modules will eventually be migrated to 6.x. Moreover if a module is not actively being upgraded you do not want to be stuck with it using Drupal5.x. as the coders are already talking about 7.x

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Drupal 5.7 is a "complete"

modul - May 28, 2008 - 20:12

Drupal 5.7 is a "complete" environment. The core and the main contributed modules are there, the most important ones being Views and CCK. Both are not yet "ripe" for production sites on Drupal 6. So, the question is really what you want to do. If you just want to familiarize yourself with Drupal, without wanting to reach the outside world, 6 could be the right way to go. But if you want a production site with any serious "body" and versatility, I would advise you take 5, with Views and CCK, of course. Views is the query machine, and CCK is needed for adding a whole series of special field types to your nodes. If you don't want that, take 6, otherwise take 5.

and let me add ...

fatcop - June 3, 2008 - 14:38

for others like myself who also need a near production site up in the next few weeks, from what I have read, the reason why Views and CCK are so important is that other high profile contrib modules like Advertise and eCommerce (and Ubercart?) *depend* upon those modules.

I've seen comments from module devs that until dependents like Views and CCK are stable in D6, porting their modules to D6 is low priority.

So thanks to modul above, it seems clear that 5.7 is definitely the go for anything production in the next few weeks, maybe even months.

Cheers :)

5.7 is the way to go...

orangefox - June 3, 2008 - 23:44

I also agree that 5.7 is the way to go, have spoke to many people who agree that 6.x is best not used for a live site for at least another 6 months.
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If my site is simply a

AngelicLight - June 4, 2008 - 19:27

If my site is simply a static site with no user-interaction would the limitations still be that extreme for the two versions?

I'm an author and creating a site featuring my articles and other static content and have, since my first post, read about some of the most frequently used modules.

Would anyone doing a similar site (no forum, no blog, no user interaction) see ver 6 as still too limited?

I'm looking to use Drupal so as to not have to do any HTML coding, though I am pretty versed in HTML/CSS.

Thanks so much for the input so far and anything further that might help clarify and expediate things.

Take care, all,

- A

The main problem with D 6 at

modul - June 4, 2008 - 23:29

The main problem with D 6 at this moment is the fact that Views and CCK are not yet production ready. If your site can do without their functionality, I don't suppose it could put you in trouble to start out with 6. But before you do that, make sure you know what Views and CCK are all about. If you don't need the query power of Views or the versatility of CCK fields (or the power of both put together), 6 will do just fine.

A static content site, blog,

SamRose - June 7, 2008 - 00:27

A static content site, blog, or site with static content and comments, all could do extremely well with Drupal 6

Basically, if you want to do anything that is done with Drupal "core" modules (the modules that ship with the drupal 6 release), then Drupal 6 will work great. That includes aggregator, simple forums, polls, everything you see listed here

http://cvs.drupal.org/viewvc.py/drupal/drupal/modules/?pathrev=DRUPAL-6-...

Sounds to me, based on what little you have talked about here, A, that you could easily get by with Drupal 6.2 which is very stable, and totally usable for a simple website

http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/HomePage

Apparently no tech consultants recommend 6.2

joebd_man - June 5, 2008 - 20:16

We're looking at hiring some expertise to help us build our new site, which will be relatively simple, and so far not a single consultant I've spoken with is inclined to implement 6.2. So if you think you might need help along the way, I think you'll have to use 5.7

True, because much of what

SamRose - June 7, 2008 - 00:29

True, because much of what most people want to do requires modules outside of Drupal's core, that are not quite yet ready for Drupal 6.x

Although, at the same time, some bounties could be collected and offered for moving key modules forward (if we can't directly contribute code..)

http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/HomePage

Why not start with drupal

portait - June 5, 2008 - 20:37

Why not start with drupal 4.7 so that you won't miss the early days. ^^

I don't think your remark

modul - June 6, 2008 - 08:34

I don't think your remark adds very much to the discussion, Portait. The difference in development speed between Drupal on the one hand and the main contributed modules on the other hand is a very serious issue. I would love to get my hands on Drupal 6, but I don't, because Views and CCK are essential to my site. So, I stick with 5.7 for the time being. Only thing: this "time being" is already 4 months or so... It kind of feels like Mercedes markets a new model, puts it in the shop, everybody is very enthusiastic about it - but the wheels have not yet been finished. That's kinda painful, no matter how good the new model may be, wouldn't you say? Or imagine a new version of Word being published by our friends in Redmond, but there's no "Print" or "Save as" available yet. That spoils the fun a little bit, wouldn't you say? Anyway, Drupal 6 is out of the question for me without reliable versions of CCK and Views. And I have the impression that this is the case for most any site with something more than just a couple of static pages. The Powers That Be really need to do something about this.

Frankly a Drupal 6.2 Support Group Would Be Great

joebd_man - June 6, 2008 - 17:06

Drupal 6.2 really ought to have its own Forum topic because it is difficult to find people with expertise who are actually using it.

drupal 7

portait - June 6, 2008 - 17:42

So, I stick with 5.7 for the time being.

Yeah, I am also waiting for drupal 7 with views & cck included. It should be out next year. :D

Not really

Michelle - June 6, 2008 - 18:10

It's more like Mercedes putting out a new model with lots of cool features and getting nothing but grief because an after market company that makes a really cool add-on that's hugely popular decided to do a much needed ground up redesign and wasn't able to get it done in time.

FYI: There are no "Powers That Be" outside of Dries. There are only "Powers that Do".

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Today or tomorrow

BryanSD - June 6, 2008 - 17:59

I am of the opinion that if you need the site:

Today: Drupal 5
Tomorrow: Drupal 6

In other words, if you don't plan on putting your site online for a few months, I would suggest Drupal 6. Sure there may not be some modules currently in production (Views, CCK), but they are coming fast. I've been using Views for Drupal 6 for the past month or two and haven't had to many issues. The point is that if your production cycle is long enough, you're more than likely won't regret "moving forward" to Drupal 6.

Having said that, I do feel I upgraded my site from Drupal 5 to Drupal 6 a little too quickly. This has been my history with the site to be "cutting edge". However, I didn't recognize that my site visitors expect a more stable site than I do and have had to start acknowledging that it is more than my blog. My users don't seem to appreciate the experimentation as much as I do!

Good luck in whichever version you choose, Drupal 5 or Drupal 6. The comment about using Drupal 4.7...funny!

-Bryan
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