Planet Drupal?
qgil - August 4, 2005 - 16:25
How about a planet.drupal.org?
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Well....
I'm using the planetplanet software for a couple sites. BUT, I think the aggregation software in drupal is better. Why? Because it let's you organize the news feeds into categories. With planetplanet you get one long page and no further organization.
The primary advantage of planetplanet is it parses more styles of feeds.
- David Herron - http://7gen.com/
My suggestion was about
My suggestion was about content, sorry for not being more specific.
I mean, a place where feeds from Drupal developers, admins, etc, can be accessed.
I suggested PlanetPlanet because it's a popular tool to do this but if Drupal has a better functionality... perfect! Where in drupal.org could we have this feeds aggregated? I think they would be useful.
That's funny, I thought
That's funny, I thought about just the same thing a few days ago. I'd be willing to setup and administer a planetplanet installation or a respectively configured Drupal-installation somewhere (preferably on planet.drupal.org as qgil proposed). I'll ask on drupal-infrastructure if a planet.drupal.org can be done...
Uwe.
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It's good to know that other
It's good to know that other people thinks of a Planet Drupal. :)
I would have no problem starting in an unofficial URL that would become official (i.e. planet.drupal.org) once it is 100% functional, filled with appropriate feeds and useful for the Drupal community.
We may put as a requirement that people wanting to be listed in the Planet send a specific feed for Drupal. This is very easy to do with Drupal itself, just creating a specific taxonomy term (i.e. http://desdeamericaconamor.org/blog/en/taxonomy/term/98).
By requiring this filter we would avoid the non-Drupal related entries that everybody has the right to have in their blogs. :)
OK, so here we go:
OK, so here we go: http://planetdrupal.phpmeat.org/.
I created this as a test site for a future Planet Drupal, hopefully hosted here at drupal.org, we'll see. I only added a few sample blogs to the list to demonstrate how it works and how it looks like. Feel free to test and suggest improvements. I'll leave the planet there for a few days, lets see how this develops and how well it works.
Please do not tell me to add more sites (yet), I will add quite a bunch soon. If you're still missing some feeds after that (or want your own feed added), please contact me.
At the moment there are only Drupal-specific feeds and sites. IMHO it would be quite nice to have a(nother?) planet which aggregates ALL blog posts of Drupal developers, not just those which are Drupal-specific. Thoughts?
Note: This is hosted on my own Vserver (which already hosts multiple other sites), so performance won't be that great. Please be gentle ;)
Uwe.
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dogfood
Now see, we are not using our own stuff. So my suggestion is to use Drupal and it;s aggregator. Also at some point I belive the aggregator feeds will return to Drupal.org as well.
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We'll do this on the new infrastructure with Drupal itself
We don't need any planet-planet software -- Drupal does this itself, either with the built-in aggregator or aggregator2 (feeds, feed items as nodes).
There is a patch for admin setting of HTML filter, so images don't get stripped.
Please *don't* add more feeds to the current site -- it will only steal Google pagerank from Drupal.org itself for Drupal related info, and gives no way for people to leave comments, etc. etc.
P.S. Here are single feeds that capture virtually all Drupal-related information already:
* PubSub Search for any items with "Drupal" in the title - http://rss.pubsub.com/19/c6/a9721de5c56440f74e7f53204f.xml
* del.icio.us feed for "drupal" tag - http://del.icio.us/rss/tag/drupal
Planet Drupal -- Round 2
Hi Boris, thanks for your comments (and also thanks to everyone else who responded, including the people on drupal-infrastructure).
I agree (of course) that the final Planet Drupal should be powered by Drupal! I simply wanted to try out planetplanet, too, and see what it can do, to be able to compare it to aggregator/aggregator2. There's no reason why we should not learn from other projects...
That said, I'm happy to hear that there are already plans to set up a Planet Drupal after the infrastructure has been upgraded (at least that's how I understood what you said). If you need any help with the setup/maintainance/whatever, you can count me in.
For now, I replaced the planetplanet with a quick Drupal installation, again available at http://planetdrupal.phpmeat.org, so I can play around with it some more. It runs 4.6 with aggregator2 (which indeed looks very promising).
The site is password-protected now, to keep Google out (username: test, password: test).
Any comments are - as always - welcome.
Uwe.
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Minor update: I also enabled
Minor update: I also enabled the (slightly patched) aggregator.module from core now. Feel free to test and report which you like better and why.
http://planetdrupal.phpmeat.org/aggregator
Uwe.
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At a content level...
http://planetdrupal.phpmeat.org/node (aggregator2)
Hum, I must be missing something because this page confuses me a lot. I feel like reading Drupal's help forum.
http://planetdrupal.phpmeat.org/aggregator (aggregator patched)
Well, this is something closer to what people understand a planet of blogs is.
However, I think we should keep just personal/individual blogs and avoid project/corporate feeds such as drupal.org, CivicSpace or Bryght. The main utility of a Planet is to ensemble personal views around a project. In most planets the average single blog entry wouldn't hit a project homepage, but the collection of blog entries is very interesting.
Hum, I must be missing
Um, yeah, that's really my fault. I added the CivicSpace forums feed to that, which was probably an error. We should really stick to blogs only, I guess. I was too lazy to remove those posts again ;-)
I wouldn't restrict it to non-project/corporate blogs. Both, Bryght and CivicSpace have lots of active Drupal developers whose blogs are very interesting. I wouldn't want to miss all their blog posts...
Maybe two different planets/feeds, one with pure private blog posts, one which also includes project/corporate blogs?
Uwe.
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I agree on adding feeds of
I agree on adding feeds of Bryght and CivicSpace developers' blogs, my only concern was about adding directly the feeds from Drupal, Bryght and CivicSpace homepages.
Anyway, it is not so relevant. Once the planet rules it's easier to see what is missing and what is unnecessary.
DuabiPlanet
A friend of mine set up Dubai Planet:
http://www.dubaiplanet.net
using aggregator2 .. to have it work, we had to create a user per feed, so that the author name is the same user.. as well put that user in a group that allow him to adminster and add aggregator2-feed and aggregator2-item.
as well I had to change the node.tpl.php (for the PHPTemplate theme) to make different markups according to the node type (made it show the author as a title, instead of a small text of submitted by). And to show the Day date in the same way that aggregator do.
Basically it needed some amount of playing with the aggregator2.module, and the node.tpl.php.. but the result was close to perfect :)
aggregator2 says "Submitted
aggregator2 says "Submitted by Planet Drupal" in all entries. Shouldn't be the original poster featured there?
On the other hand, should we have any criteria to add or add not blogs to the planet?
Template/theme issue
This is because the feed item nodes are "owned" by the Drupal user that creates the feed.
Ideally, feed item nodes would have a different template display that pulls/displays the original author information if included in the source RSS feed.
Drupal for planet
when I started http://www.jordanplanet.net I started with planetplanet, soon I realized that I needed more.. and for the last 8 months I had been with drupal. Although it's not designed for the purpose of being used as a planet site, it worked fine. The major drawback is the aggregator module. which until now doesn't work with ATOM (I heard that atom support is in head now). Add to that the limitations with aggregated nodes (which node-aggregator or aggregator2 should sove, but none worked with me as I expect it).
I really hope that the next version of drupal will bring major enhancements in that field.
Some patches went in
Some patches went in recently to improve the aggregator. And yes, Atom is now supported. What problems with node-aggregator or aggregator2 did you have? Please consider filing bug-reports against those to have them fixed.
Uwe.
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Planet Drupal on Drupal.org
Planet Drupal has now officially been launched:
http://drupal.org/node/31026
Please post any comments and suggestions for improvements there...
Uwe.
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How to view RSS feeds in my sites when enabling Planet module
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Please help me??
How to view RSS feeds in my sites when enabling Planet module