Unpublished Eurobookings.com thread

Just giving it a better title.

Michelle

I think it has information for general public interest and should stay published. Our Original post was plainly to put it as Drupal Showcase site and help in answering technical queries. Some elements sabotaged it and took it in different direction.

Roshan

Agreed that it should be unpublished. The thread was taken into the "dispute" and "accusation" direction by the company that created the post, not by anyone else.

"Some elements sabotaged it and took it in different direction"

That "some elements" was BPO Canada/Gloscon. Not sure who else or what else the term "some elements" means?

I personally do not feel that Drupal.org is the place for legal mud-slinging, especially coming from the Showcase forum section, so good riddance to that post.

Thanks

3 days and the only dissenter is one of the people involved in the flamewar, so I'm considering this fixed.

Michelle

Michelle

How can we expect people to voice concern about something that is unpublished without having been involved in the thread, and hence have a vested interest?

"trueMarketing" was one of the posters in the thread, and would probably have an interest one way or the other in it too.

I suggest that the thread remain published, but be locked from further comments, with a comment in the body about why it was locked (endless debates?), and a comment at the bottom to the same effect.

I wasn't involved in the thread and have no vested interest. I just saw a lot of unproductive mudslinging between companies and felt it didn't belong in the Drupal showcase forum, which is supposed to be, well, a showcase.

I would like to see the admins weigh in on this.

Michelle

This thread is clearly off-topic and has no business in the Drupal showcase forum.

If you want to attack each other go set up a Drupal site and start your own flame war, some where else. Drupal.org is about the Drupal community and not a SEO battle ground for preserving your companies reputations and attacking those who criticize you.

I've blocked Garfy. I'm close to blocking a few others.

Kieran

I hope someone reviews the full thread. The original intention while posting it in drupal was to showcase the capabilities of Drupal and share technical knowledge. Couple of times, I had personally requested to keep the responses on course.

truMarketing/SEO Position/Social SEO managed the 9000 hours failed implementation and were fired from the project. It appears that Brian cannot digest the fact that they failed and we delivered and hence he sabotaged the thread.

The other person "Robert" doesn't even exist. I don't see any reason why such elements shouldn't be exposed. I certainly think the thread should be locked but remain published.

Roshan

Let me make it clear. If your project is a total disaster and you've got a wide range of financial disputes about unpaid bills across multiple parties, with legal action and disputed claims of ownership of the project:

"YOUR SITE IS NOT A DRUPAL SHOWCASE SITE!"

putting LIPSTICK on the PIG and saying it's a demonstration of features doesn't make your thread showcase forum worthy.

I agree with Kalid. We could additionally move it to another forumbesides "drupal showcase".

Maybe we need a "failed projects" forum...

If the original post was an actual case study / showcase post (i.e. we built x, used module y, made design decision z) then I could understand comment locking or something less drastic. But it's a three line post pointing to a URL, followed by nothing other than bitching between 2/3/4 different companies/people/whatever arguing about who screwed up the most.

Leave it locked, thanks for filing this for the record, Michelle. Marking as closed.

Thanks for backing me up, folks.

Michelle

I will like to request a reconsideration on this. Khalid has suggested to keep the thread published and Gerhard has suggested to move it to failed projects. I support either of them. I think there is information for public interest in it and in many forums, such threads have not been removed.

It is a Drupal Site and a fairly high traffic site which we did heavy lifting and delivered. I fail to understand why it can't be a showcase site. If client does not pay companies, this has nothing to do with showcase.

I do not understand this at all. But if it needs a place for something like drupalfailedprojects.com as last option, then I have no issues putting it up. I don't think that would be a good idea though.

Roshan: as I said -- if you had bothered to write up an *actual* case study rather than just simply link to the site, that would be great. In fact, people would probably be coming to your defense.

Reading over the comment thread makes me sick to my stomache -- the classy/proper thing to have done would have been ONE comment post saying that the discussion is not appropriate to have on the Drupal site, and redirecting off site to some place where you could fight peacefully. But no, it's filled with name calling and finger pointing.

Want to showcase what you did? Write up a real case study, modules used, changes made, development done, patches committed, etc. And try to think of this as a respectful, PUBLIC forum. If you would like to engage other users in a disrespectful manner, invite them over to your own site.