refine definition of Planet Drupal

greggles - August 8, 2008 - 17:56
Project:Drupal.org webmasters
Component:Textual improvements
Category:task
Priority:normal
Assigned:Unassigned
Status:closed
Description

At the top of the Planet Drupal block it currently says:

Planet Drupal aggregates the Drupal-related blog posts of:

As has been noted before this is a little too broad.

Planet Drupal aggregates broadly appealing, Drupal-related blog posts of:

I don't think this is the perfect phrasing, but I would like it to convey the idea that not every single post with "Drupal" mentioned in it deserves to be in Planet Drupal since I believe that is the most common sentiment held among community members.

#1

beeradb - August 9, 2008 - 02:04

How about (borrowing from the irc support message a bit)...

Planet Drupal aggregates broadly appealing, Drupal-related blog posts pertaining to the community at large (code, advocacy, marketing, infrastructure etc.):

#2

dsantangelo - August 11, 2008 - 16:24

beeradb implies an interesting point -- perhaps there should be more than one Planet Drupal in the same way that there are several Drupal channels? Perhaps

  • "Galaxy Drupal" for more high-level marketing, news, propaganda, etc;
  • "Planet Drupal" for development specifically -- new module announcements and significant improvements, infrastructure -- things that someone who's day job is Drupal development would be interested in;
  • "Village Drupal" for more community-centric, what's-going-on-today from people/shops where they can discuss their projects (which may or may not have mass appeal)

That stratifies aggregation into Super high-level, Down in the Weeds, and Around the Watercooler, basically.

#3

beeradb - August 12, 2008 - 15:31

Although I can see the merit in dsantangelo's suggestion, I think it would be difficult to pull off, since all of the current subscribers to the planet would have to get on board with the change. Additionally, it would raise administrative overhead for the webmasters, as initially there would be a rush to re-classify current planet feeds (with many Planet site wanting to be classified under multiple categories). My sense is that we should stick with the system that's already in place.

#4

dsantangelo - August 12, 2008 - 18:16

Right, it would be a big pain. To be honest I don't see a huge deal with where Planet's at now -- how many posts do you skip over on Digg or Slashdot? I skip probably 9/10. That's the thing with an aggregator, right, just because it's not interesting to you ("you" being anybody) doesn't mean it doesn't have a place in the feed.

#5

Senpai - August 14, 2008 - 17:52
Status:needs review» reviewed & tested by the community

I too think that the ratio of posts on the Planet is high, but I definitely don't think we should split them up into separate Galaxy, Planet, Star, and Moon phases. If that were to happen, which one would I post my newest coolest thing into? And which one should I subscribe to if I don't wanna miss a 'thang?

Naw, let's leave it as One Planet. I scan the incoming posts through my Mac's desktop widget planet blog reader thingy. I click on a post occasionally when it's title and opening sentences grab my attention and shake it violently. Other than that, it's just a great way to see what everybody is doing, thinking, and progressing.

Greggles, try this.

Planet Drupal aggregates blog posts from the community which are interesting to the majority of readers.

#6

dsantangelo - August 25, 2008 - 08:58

Planet Drupal aggregates blog posts from the community which are interesting to the majority of readers.

If our metric is based on the interests of a majority of readers, don't we have to have some way for that majority to make their interests known, and do something with the posts that don't qualify?

What we're doing here is discussing a guideline. How do you all propose that it be enforced? I know I'm going to get kickback from using that word, so let me address it now: either A) an enforcement mechanism is in place, or B) no enforcement mechanism is in place. We're currently at "B" as it is -- so in actuality, it seems like we should be discussing what a good enforcement mechanism should be.

#7

Senpai - August 31, 2008 - 14:59
Status:reviewed & tested by the community» fixed

Dom, I agree with you in theory, but when it comes to practicality, don't we all have better things to do than 'police' an RSS feed?

Robin Marks is feeding his daily commit logs to the Planet. It's probably not intentional, but the Planet's aggregator *does* seem to use a rather loose word to pick stuff up with. If I were Robin, and I was building a widget that displayed a block of my own SVN commits for my own readers' edificational pleasure, I too would tag it with the word Drupal because, well, that's what classifies it best.

If the Planet picks it up and aggregates it, one of two things has just happened. Either it was good enough for the world to read, or he tagged it with something that he thought was relevant to that small piece of text and the rest of us are just following along in case we want to.

@greggles: I've just realized that this isn't a documentation issue. It's a matter of the aggregator picking up all manner of things related to a word that's being used by anyone and everyone to simply describe their content. We gave them taxonomy, and they're using it as intended. We cannot become the enforcers of "do not use the word 'drupal' to tag this content with, or it'll show up on the Planet!" Umm, but it's Drupal-related content, and since not all the content on my site *is* Drupally, I want to be able to make the distinction for my own sanity?

I'm marking this as fixed, unless someone else has more input?

#8

greggles - September 1, 2008 - 16:25
Status:fixed» reviewed & tested by the community

@Senpai - recent requests for planet inclusion are required to use a "Planet Drupal" tag instead of just "Drupal". The fact that they are "using taxonomy as intended" doesn't mean the terms can't be edited :p

Just because people's blogs have been around since forever doesn't mean we should let them continue to pollute the planet and, based upon your 269 word response to this issue we obviously have little else better to do.

Also, since this issue can't be implemented without a patch to drupalorg module it's now dependent on #302667: pull aggregator description from admin settings instead of hardcoding

#9

greggles - September 8, 2008 - 20:43
Status:reviewed & tested by the community» fixed

#10

Anonymous (not verified) - September 22, 2008 - 20:52
Status:fixed» closed

Automatically closed -- issue fixed for two weeks with no activity.

 
 

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