Posted by Wolfflow on August 14, 2008 at 10:53pm
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Issue Summary
at http://drupal.org/getting-started we find following statement:
Welcome to Drupal! Drupal is a powerful content management system ...
then in http://drupal.org/node/265726 "The Drupal Overview"
we read in the paragraph titled: "A Content Management Framework"
this:
Drupal is a Content Management Framework. This is somewhat different from a Content Management System (or CMS)
Aware that I'm am a no english native, I understand that both definition of Drupal may apply as in different statements environments, but this brought me to ask if it is better to follow one definition for "Getting started" people in order to not overhelm them with a lot of technical stuff before appropriate learning curve stage?
Cheers
Comments
#1
Yes, those statements are contradictory.
Although I see what it's saying, in English there's very little actual difference between 'system' and 'framework' in this context. It's just trying to distinguish the thing away from common CMSs and their limitations. However, CMSs are not automatically limited ... it's just that most of them are.
:-}
No, I can't word it any better either.
I do think that that second essay is a bit unreadable. I know what it's saying, but I don't know if it can help any beginner understand the point... Maybe it needs more pictures.
Anyway, to fix the obvious contradiction you point out, perhaps it should be something like:
... which is how I think of it. Drupal is not 'different from' a CMS, as it clearly IS a CMS at the core.
However I'm not game to edit that entire article, nor can I really improve it - I'm also a verbose writer so I'd just make it worse :-\
Maybe we can find some key points or pullquotes to break it up...
#2
Thank You Dman, for your explanation. Really appreciate that you always find the patient to help me.
And I agree with you, with some picture Beginner and Newbie could make out the difference and characteristic
of the two statements. If I find some expample in Internet I will try to propose to add them.
Cheers
#3
New component categorization
#4
As we all know Drupal is going to be more "framework" driven that "Content Managements" the next Drupal version (7)
is prooven that, so provide feedback and lets take a decision to redifine Drupal.
#5
Changed to
postponedbecause I'm aware that such a definition matter about what is Drupal, will take time to be definitively defined by who know Drupal at deep.#6
FYI:
Some new definitions
see --> Drupal.project,
provided by Angie Byron (Status - waiting approval)
#7
Actual text on Getting started
Welcome to Drupal! Drupal is a powerful content management system, meaning you can power many different types of websites with it without knowing any coding languages.
If you're new to Drupal or having your own website, then this guide is for you.
The following pages should introduce you to the Drupal project, some best practices the community has accumulated and basic installation and configuration.
A PDF of the Drupal 5 version of the Getting Started handbook can be found <a href="http://drupal.org/getting-started/5">here</a>.
Actual text on The Drupal Overview
paragraph: "A Content Management Framework"
Drupal is a Content Management Framework. This is somewhat different from a Content Management System (or CMS) in that it is by nature geared more towards configurability and customization. Picture a range of measurement where the one end of the scale is labeled “specific” and the other end “abstract”. On the “specific” end of the spectrum, you would have something whose form is very specialized because it’s meant for a specific purpose – like, say, a hammer. On the other end of the spectrum, you would have something much more abstracted, that is available to be configured any way you like, for a variety of purposes – like some wood and a chunk of steel. You could make a hammer, or any number of other things with the wood and steel.#8
FYI: As for the actual and further development of Drupal and in prevision of that many new characteristics of Drupal we should provide a coherent definition of Drupal in every pat of the documentation this might be appropriate and needed. IMHO: As for this intent I re mention here what I have so far inserted in the "Common Terminology" page for
defining in simple words what the Drupal project is and can represent.
as published in Common expressions & acronyms used on D.O.
More info about "Drupal Project usage overview": A summary page of the usage information for the projects on this site.
Note: this definition is being extracted from an Article on Lullabot.com authoring by Angie Byron
#9
#10
Automatically closed -- issue fixed for 2 weeks with no activity.