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How on earth do you implement moderation in Drupal 6?
I am trying to figure out how to moderate blogs for multiple users.
Is it a module?
I have searched google and drupal and not really seen anything makes sense.
Am I using the wrong words? Some other vocabulary for this?
Thanks,
JM
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Is modr8 the module I
Is modr8 the module I need?
I don't feel like an idiot for not finding it now.... I can't say I ever would have typed that into search....
Is there no built in moderation of blog entries by users? I just can't believe there isn't... I can't see it anyway, unless it is one of those things just staring me in the face.
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it's easily found-- typing
it's easily found-- typing "moderate" into the "Search downloads" box lists it in the first page of results.
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It is obvious now. That is
It is obvious now.
That is the problem with this site. There is so much 'assumptive blindness' in it.
Seriously modr8 is not obvious, my brain completely skipped over that as some weird handle name.
It is utterly bewildering to me this is not an essential core module.
As per the modr8 module, it
As per the modr8 module, it says moderation was removed from core.
Why would this happen?
This seems like an essential tool for anything beyond a personal blog.
There must be something I am missing here.
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when a module is pulled from core it allows the development community to expand on it.
Not everyone needs to moderate content.
Ah, that makes sense. I was
Ah, that makes sense.
I was wondering if it was something to do with the structure of the project.
Could you elaborate some
Could you elaborate some more about this?
I agree not everyone needs to moderate content - but what exactly is that everyone *does* need to do?
When I look at the D6 distribution, it looks to me like it contains *tons* of stuff that many users don't need. And that's fine.
I just don't understand what the reasoning is why certain modules remain in the core and others are added or removed.
maybe Why isn't X feature
maybe Why isn't X feature part of core? would be helpful
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Thanks for the pointer. I've
Thanks for the pointer. I've looked at that page in the past, and I just re-read it a couple of times. It answers some questions but not others. In particular, it defends why modules are not lightly added to the core, which makes a lot of sense. But it doesn't address why some stuff that previously was in core was removed, or why other things that seem pretty inessential remain in the core version after version.
Some of this is talked about by webchick in http://www.lullabot.com/articles/drupal-community-philosophies
I think it's a little odd that the "polls" functionality (for example) has been kept in the core for all these versions.
Ah well, I'm still trying to understand the Drupal philosophy...
i'm not really sure about
i'm not really sure about all the design decisions, but if you really want to know i'm sure there must be a record of them somewhere it's just a matter of finding them. One thing relevant to this thread is that i did find an issue related to putting moderation back in core (see http://drupal.org/node/118134), but it hasn't received much attention, so apparently it's not that vital.
EDIT: also found http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/development/2006-July/017312.html which would seem to be the reason moderation was pulled from core.
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Both interesting links,
Both interesting links, thanks very much!
My head spins a little bit from the language here. I think terms like "moderation" are being used in lots of different ways, in fact the original post on this thread makes the same point.
My personal interest is the functionality given by the "Revision Moderation" module, but I think when people talk about "moderation" in general they often mean other things.
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The idea that not everyone needs to moderate content was a tacked on personal comment. Not intended to be used as a reason the module was removed from core.
It seems to me that when a module is removed from core, there are usually contrib modules that already go above and beyond. If a module is removed from core and it gets put in contrib, it is picked up by the community and made better, or it dies because the community at large doesn't use it.
I'm sure for each module that was removed from core there is an issue thread that explains the reason it was pulled. I don't believe the reason to be the same with each removal.
poll.module removal from core discussion = http://drupal.org/node/61285
which also explains why it hasn't been removed from a few different perspectives.
In my opinion moderation in Drupal is seriously lacking.
Drupal moderation modules are sub par and in my opinion a large undertaking should be done to make this a robust part of core module or at least a single robust module. Any robust moderation should include revision moderation as revisions are part of core.
In Drupal5 the code was removed from core, but the database flag in node still remained. Just checked, it's still there in Drupal6. There was a simple module called Moderate, which re-added the most basic moderation functionality, but was a sub-par implementation. There's also revision_moderation.
Moderation in my opinion is something most any one running a community site will need. And since that's mostly what drupal the drupal framework is all about, I think there should be at the very least a robust module that I'm sure many people could benefit from. Would require things like a moderation queue, notifications via email, revision moderation as well as node moderation.
I'll all for removing Poll from core modules as well. :D Never enabled Forum module either.
Well off to find more information about moderation for Drupal 6.
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wonderful idea. All it takes is people with the skillset to hop in the project and start supplying patches. I believe that was part of the reasoning behind why moderation was pulled out of core ... so that the community could make it more robust.
I'd start by investigating the modr8.module
I whole heartedly agree!
I completely agree! After spending an entire weekend reading about a hundred posts and articles across dozens of sites I have come to the conclusion that there is currently no module (or even set of modules) that really provides a viable and robust moderation feature set.
Primarily I've been looking at implementing site admin and user level forum moderation for a site I'm developing. The idea being that forum posts would go live and then be accessible for moderation by either a site admin or site users that have been promoted to a moderator role.
The problem is, most of these contrib modules seem to give site wide node admin access which is clearly not going to work.
So after my all my research it looks like the most viable alternative for the time being is to implement the phpbb integration module.
This would not only give me the nice look and feel of a standardized forum, but also give me all of the advanced administrative features as well.
If you know of something else I should be considering please let me know.
Thanks!
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has anyone investigated the modr8.module?