I downloaded views 6.x-2.0-rc1 (accidentally downloaded rc1, rc2 was the latest), five star 6.x-1.13, CCK 6.x-2.0-rc7. Then when I played around with views, I could get five star to be shown but not CCK.

After a lot of searching, I realized that I have the older version of views and the "issues" mention that my version of CCK works with rc2 and not rc1.

So I downloaded views rc2, HALLELUJAH! CCK works perfectly with Views rc2... but wait a minute, where's five star? Apparently, the new views don't work with five star module.

This is just pissing me off, I spent almost 2 days figuring out views, searching for answers and modifying things around only to come back to where I was.

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PipSqueak’s picture

Recently, I felt drupal is scattered everywhere. Why can't e.g. voting api be bundled together with other voting applications? I know this may end up the users with features that they don't use, but they can always delete the modules that they don't want later on. At least all the modules in the bundle ensures that everything is working perfectly together. Like my situation above, the end user has to figure out whether it's something wrong with voting api, five star, views, cck, database, corrupted module, etc etc.

dnewkerk’s picture

Every module you named besides Fivestar is (for Drupal 6) either RC (release candidate), alpha, beta, etc. None of those are official releases yet, so some bugs are to be expected. And since Fivestar is closely related to CCK and Views, it is more likely to break when those modules change as well.

Voting API is just the sort of module that is "not" meant to be built in with other modules. It is a separate module that many other modules can make use of, so that no code/efforts have to be constantly repeated on that functionality.

-- David
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fergusong’s picture

Say David,

Any suggestions for a link where I can get a better understanding of the practical status of
Drupal 6.x. Getting to 6.4 with many major modules still 'unreleased', over six months
after 6.0 was released is both confusing and discouraging for us average users.
How to learn more? The module updates page
http://groups.drupal.org/node/5036
seemed useful six months ago. But at this point it just raises more questions.
No doubt there are posts somewhere suitably flaming folks with concerns like
mine for not re-writing the modules ourselves. I guess that's the kind of reference
I'm after.

Thanks,
Gordon

michelle’s picture

Trust me, there's plenty of flaming about this. Especially from new people who don't realize that this release cycle is unusual. Views and CCK both underwent complete and major rewrites for D6. This caused a cascade effect because there are hundreds of modules that depend on them. So this whole cycle is a bit of a mess. D7 won't be nearly so traumatic.

Michelle

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PipSqueak’s picture

I've been using drupal since v4. I felt the modules was even more scattered while trying out drupal 5 & 6 (more when v6).

WorldFallz’s picture

I'm still pretty new, but this seems perfectly logical to me. As drupal has increased in popularity, there are more and more people writing modules for it and contributing them back to the community. The current system of categorizing them has simply been overwhelmed by the sheer numbers and variety of modules now available. I'm confident the new d.o. redesign will address this.

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michelle’s picture

I was addressing the concern over modules still not being ready for D6. That has nothing to do with them being "scattered". Except for the odd module here and there on personal sites, they are actually quite centralized here on d.o.

Michelle

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michelle’s picture

There was a recent major change to views. Normally that wouldn't happen in an RC but there was a significant benefit and merlin felt it was worth doing despite the fact that it broke all modules that use the views API. So there is currently some scrambling for everyone to get their modules fixed.

Michelle

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