Hi, there have been a number of Yahoo pipes feeds added to Drupal planet. Some of them are of questionable quality, and some times the author doesn't even know they are being added to Drupal planet.

Please contact me.

Kieran

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AjK’s picture

The only "pipe" I saw requested on webmasters was for a local user group somewhere. I didn't add it or follow up. In fact, I believe I remember killes responding saying g.d.o was a better place to propagated local ug info. Other than, I haven't seen a request for any Yfeeds in the webmasters issue queue.

Amazon’s picture

Yahoo News - http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/rss?p=drupal&ei=UTF-8
About.com - http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=mHRfwS_C3RGol9Jepgt1Yg&_render...
Bright Lemon - http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=40457707213da7caae9fb76e6116cf...
ChaseSagum.com - http://drupal.org/admin/content/aggregator/edit/feed/290
Dan Karran - http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=FKBb_NSA3RGnIQlqBB50VA&_render...
Corey Smith - http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=iEY9kNaA3RGpw0ktpgt1Yg&_render...
Geekspace for Women - http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=Rrt6TseE3RGPXDwPBR50VA&_render...
Linux Journal http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=YvADte6A3RGlpetMpgt1Yg&_render...
Linux.com - http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=_oZO5yWG3RGV_bqgrLQID
Smashing Magazine - http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=Fn9YnteK3RGIcloK_w6H4A&_render...
Sassafrass - Ancillary Factory - http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=Ghk_O8d_3RGLhNWI_w6H4A&_render...
Social CMS Buzz - http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=4PIgdvqJ3RGPP8dyBB50VA&_render...

Other indiscriminate cruft
Digg - http://digg.com/rss_search?search=drupal&area=all&type=both&section=
Drupal easy - http://feeds.feedburner.com/DrupalEasy
Drupal on Google news - http://news.google.com/news?q=drupal&output=rss
Drupal files - http://feedproxy.google.com/drupalfiles
Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/services/feeds/photos_public.gne?tags=drupal&forma...
Google News - http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=drupal&ie=UTF-8&output=rss
Groups - Events - http://groups.drupal.org/ical/*/feed
Wordpress.org Drupal posts - http://wordpress.com/tag/drupal/feed/

How specific is this?
http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default/-/drupal?alt=rss

robertdouglass’s picture

I have been adding feeds to the Planet since its inception. I have lately added several feeds that I run through Yahoo Pipes to make sure they stay on topic. Not all sites are equally well equipped with the categorization of feeds available.

In most cases I contact the author, especially when it is a single-person blogger. In some cases, for example Howtoforge.com, I didn't contact anybody. I set up a Pipe that would make sure the article is on topic, and I added it.

I would gladly step up and work to improve the aggregation on Drupal.org. Here are some ideas that I can imagine being helpful:

- Add more categories other than Drupal Talk and Planet Drupal. For example "Ubercart" or "CiviCRM" or "Hosting" or "Jobs".
- Add an application form like our CVS application form so that people have a clear place to go to request to be added to a feed.
- Agree upon and publish guidelines.
- Do more to promote our feeds. I think they're a valuable resource that not enough people know about.

As for the feeds listed, some of them, like the very general ones for Flickr pictures and Digg submissions, have been part of Drupal Talk forever.

greggles’s picture

This seems quite similar to #310743: Motiveminds feed: seems to be scraping, when was it added? which is also a pipe.

Nobody is fessing up to doing this and I agree that it's generally low quality content. I think we should

1) delete these feeds (or move them to once a month updates in talk only)
2) Limit the roles that can add planet feeds
3) revisit the list of Site Maintainers asking folks to confirm/deny that they need access (and remove anyone who doesn't respond that they still want to be a maintainer)

greggles’s picture

Whoops - I cross posted with Robert.

@Robert - how about Motive Minds - did you add that? Also, as you add these in the future could you create an issue saying "just added these three folks to the planet because they rock!" - or something like that ;)

JohnForsythe’s picture

On the topic of improving Drupal Planet, and establishing guidelines, there's some good discussion going on over here:

http://groups.drupal.org/node/14804

Amazon’s picture

Let's keep this focus on the process and quality of adding feeds. Khalid, Gerhard, and I are working on better tracking of site maintainers and it's been deployed on scratch.

laura s’s picture

Seems like Pipes content could be used on the Drupal Talk feed category -- perhaps replacing some of the garbage feeds that go into that. I mean, Drupal Talk is next to worthless right now. Maybe Planet is just for *in the community* and Talk can be for relevant finds outside of the community?

robertdouglass’s picture

@Robert - how about Motive Minds - did you add that? Also, as you add these in the future could you create an issue saying "just added these three folks to the planet because they rock!" - or something like that ;)

Don't know about MotiveMinds. It's gone now, so I can't check.

I'll gladly add issues. Is Project: Drupal.org webmasters and Component: Content moderation the right categorization?

Just a note: Yahoo Pipes is a wonderful tool. Just because a feed comes from Pipes doesn't imply anything at all about its quality, just like a feed coming from feedburner doesn't either.

@LauraS: I agree that Drupal Talk is useless.

gábor hojtsy’s picture

Well, Drupal Talk used to be the "outside the community" "feed alert" setups and Planet Drupal used to be the "specifically tag your stuff and know it goes to Planet Drupal" as in "in the community" aggregator. I was disappointed by smashing magazine's entry for example, which was very looong and full of very broken images (although broken images are rather an issue of the Drupal aggregator being dumb and not recalculating relative URLs based on the feed source not the source feeds problem in most cases). I consider a 10 page post with tens of broken images low quality.

robertdouglass’s picture

Maybe there's a way to enforce the same page break rules on feeds that we enforce on posts. A lot of people were very excited by Smashing Mag's article. The length of the feed, though was a problem.

Amazon’s picture

I rather see a single feed that brings new one time articles into the planet, moderated by Robert and others, than permanent RSS feeds that are rigged through Yahoo Pipes.

What are the advantages of having permanent feeds for one off articles? Note, I am glad to have high quality content added to planet.

Kieran

robertdouglass’s picture

In the case of Howtoforge I am counting on there being more articles in the future. In the case of Smashing, can't be so sure, but if they write another article with Drupal in the title, it will be there.

There isn't really a mechanism for saying "Add this one article to Planet Drupal". I could do that with pipes as well, but why?

robin monks’s picture

I run Drupal Files, it is not a Yahoo Pipe, and it's 100% Drupal content. What gives?

Robin

robertdouglass’s picture

Status: Active » Closed (won't fix)

I think this issue is closed. The title is "who is adding Yahoo Pipes...", and the answer, in part at least, is me. I haven't seen anybody suggest removing any of the feeds Amazon selected, so closing.