Drupal site is up and running at www.funnyandjokes.com but I'm stuck when it comes to getting the menu's I want and figuring out how to best add content. When I tried adding content (jokes) I couldn't choose what vocabulary/term to place it in. The closest I came was going to create content/strory but all 3 of my vocabularies came up and no way to choose just one of them! Like it wants to post into all 3???
I've got a really simple design, all I want is a menu with a categorized listing of jokes/pictures/videos. I've added vocabularies (jokes, pictures, videos) and terms under those vocabularies. I simply want a module showing each vocabulary and their terms - in menu form so users can go to those pages. And, when it comes to adding content to those pages I'm lost. I want the module to dynamically update the categories.
I've seen alot of nice drupal sites, but after 6 hours of trying to figure it out on my own I just can't do it. I've searched here and only could find one how-to for setting up your site (support.bryght.com/adminguide/how-to) - but it's written in technical terms.
I just want some plain english setup tips. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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Screw it, I'm going to
Screw it, I'm going to another CMS. The Drupal sites I've seen all look great, but setting them up for a beginner is an absolute user un-friendly nightmare. Theirs very little support here for anything related to actually making your site useable. I found 3 more threads just like mine with no responses, and absolutely nothing related to setting up a drupal site anywhere else on the net. All the questions are about how to get the thing installed... well shit thats easy. How about making it functional... well your fucked.
Bye.
Good
Thank you for your constructive comments and commitment to Open Source software. Your five hour old account, impatience, evident unwillingness to learn and participate in the best spiirit of Open Source software along with your foul language make me pity the folks whose CMS you do use. Please do not come back because getting it functional is also easy.
Bryght's guides arn't written in technical terms, they are written in the language required to understand what you are doing and are fairly watered down. A bit of time looking up the terms on wikipedia would have helped you a lot, but well, to late now. Fortunatly for our community.
As to unanswered questions, well, oddly enough a lot of them have been answered, over and over. Many of them turn out to be answered in the handbook already even. Do we miss some? You bet, Of course, I'm not paid to be here. Oh wait... no one is.
On a final note, I like to spend more time with my family then I do spending time on free help to strangers. Yes, it;s selfish of me, but there you are.
-sp
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Five hours learning a CMS?
Five hours learning a CMS does seem a tiny bit on the short side ... I would have thought five months would be a more reasonable amount of time.
However Sepeck, I can't completely agree with you that getting it functional is also easy. This new, sorry, old, user seemed to want to create a hierarchical site structure, and this isn't totally straightforward, as evidenced by discussions such as this one.
It really depends
oon what you want to do. Many of the items raised in that thread have been incorporated into 4.7. I stand by my several of my posts though that Taxonomy is NOT a menu heireirchy. Jeremy disagreed with me, and provided manypatches and such to help nudge things into line with how he wanted it.
There are several posts by me on how I did such with menu, page, taxonomy and path module. Do a forum search for beta.blkmtn.org and you will see several posts (not copy and pasting them here :)
Most of my sites do not need that organizition on a large scale though, so what works for me may not work for you.
As to 'newbie' guides .... time, we need time and people to write them. I do not have the time to write them now and several of the people I have explained it to and they setup their sites, have not come back to contribute them either. So I sympatize with you. When my job workload permits, I hope to write up a few.
I generally tell people in the irc #drupal-support, figure on a month to understand things. Very few of the experiances you bring from another CMS will prepare you fo rDrupal. Drupal is content centric, not heirechy centric. We're trying, but we need more people to write down things they found hard, then add a book page explaining HOW to do it fo rthe next person in line.
-sp
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Test site, always start with a test site.
Drupal Best Practices Guide -|- Black Mountain
-Steven Peck
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Test site, always start with a test site.
Drupal Best Practices Guide
Many of the items raised in
Sepeck, could you please point to the items in that thread that have made it to 4.7? Would be much obliged.
specifically? no. However
specifically? no. However to address some of the concerns, aspects of menu_otf (on the fly) have been added to the menu module in core (4.7) so you can drop a node(page, story, blog) into the menu when you create that node now. The breadcrumb stuff has had some work so it's behavior is more in keeping with where you are in various paths as well.
-sp
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Test site, always start with a test site.
Drupal Best Practices Guide -|- Black Mountain
-Steven Peck
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Test site, always start with a test site.
Drupal Best Practices Guide
Thank you, Sepeck. Those are
Thank you, Sepeck. Those are two very big steps forward indeed.
What a shame.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
PS - you'd better finish off the install wizard of your replacement system and configure the admin account of your site before someone else does it for you.
RE: What a shame
WOW!
This guy has no patience at all. Didn't even complete the install wizard on his NEW, BETTER CMS.
Good catch styro!
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Dear Drupal users,
Dear Drupal users,
Yes, as a novice even I felt it little difficult to install Drupal compared to few other CMSs. But once you installed you will find out Drupal is very easier and more flexible in many aspects. What we need is patience to learn the unkown things. If we know the basics, insatalling Drupal is not at all a big task.
Patience
You really should be more patient.
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At least there was the camel joke
At least there was the camel joke.
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I suppose one of you came by
I suppose one of you came by when I was in the middle of finding a new CMS. Well, I went through 5 or 6 before and another 5 or 6 after Drupal. Drupal is the ONLY CMS I found that had the features I wanted.
And just to clear things up, there was no problem installing drupal, that took only a couple minutes. I'm an intermediate webmaster, I can edit php and write html. Im more experienced than the majority of new drupal users - which is what made my problems with drupal so damn frustrating. You have to understand when your already frustrated and been google and drupal searching for answers for 5 hours it feels like 5 days.
I'm usually very good with figuring my way around on my own. That was impossible for me to do.
The problem with drupal is that it is so overwhelming to set up for the first time user. While, as mentioned earlier, there is nothing - and I mean nothing - to walk somebody through the actual creation of a real world drupal site. Hey, if you wanna post an article - thats easy. You want a menu? Thats easy too. You want the menu and the article to play nicely with each other so you can concentrate on content... we'll then theirs a problem. And thats only touching the tip of my concerns.
I did search here, I searched all the key terms I could think of to find a solution to this. Unfortunately, all I could find were bits and pieces.
I have no doubt this is the best open source CMS, no doubt at all. None of the other CMS's can hold a candle.
Because of the fexibility I desire, I ended up not using any CMS at all and began coding the site in php header, footer, and other includes files. So far I'm up to over 500 pages of manually written files. It sucks, but oh well. It allows me to get the job done the only way I know how.
We're trying to rectify the
We're trying to rectify the 'Now what' syndrome'.
http://drupal.org/node/31896
-sp
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Test site, always start with a test site.
Drupal Best Practices Guide -|- Black Mountain
-Steven Peck
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Test site, always start with a test site.
Drupal Best Practices Guide