As described at length on this guy's blog it's very difficult to find the vast majority of the controls for the comment module. This is because instead of being under Administer » By module » Comment most of the controls are only available under Administer » Content management » Content types » Blog entry » Edit.

It would provide a drastic increase in usability to simply add a notice under Administer » By module » Comment stating "Controls for comments specific to the Blog entry content type are available under Administer » Content management » Content types » Blog entry » Edit when the Blog module is enabled."

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#12 shawn-yoroy-339417.patch1.88 KBshawn dearmond
#8 jamesan_339417-8.patch1.96 KBJamesAn
#6 jamesan_339417-6.patch1.91 KBJamesAn
#3 jamesan_339417.patch3.8 KBJamesAn

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mr.baileys
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Location 🇧🇪 (Ghent)
commented
Title: Usability - controls for comment behavior extremely difficult to find » Controls for comment behavior difficult to find.
Version: 6.6 » 7.x-dev
Issue tags: +Usability
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karschsp commented
Issue tags: +Novice

tagging for novice queue

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JamesAn commented
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new jamesan_339417.patch3.8 KB

The descriptions under Administer » By module are fetched from the modules' respective .info files. I don't think it would be appropriate to have a notice in the module's description about where to find its controls, although I agree that it needs to be somewhere.

This patch places the following blurb under hook_help:
Controls for comments of specific content types are available under the content type's edit page

I avoided using blogs as a specific example as comment controls are content-type-specific and all content types can be open to commenting.

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dries commented
Status: Active » Needs review

I'm OK with this patch. Sounds like a nice usability improvement.

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catch
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Primary language English
commented
Status: Needs review » Needs work

We should definitely add the help text, but not in 3-4 places - just admin/content/comment seems fine.

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JamesAn commented
Status: Needs work » Needs review
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new jamesan_339417-6.patch1.91 KB

The help text in comment_help() has changed. I've updated the patch.

Status: Needs review » Needs work

The last submitted patch failed testing.

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JamesAn commented
Status: Needs work » Needs review
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new jamesan_339417-8.patch1.96 KB

Why'd it not work..? =\ Here's it again.

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shawn dearmond commented
Status: Needs review » Reviewed & tested by the community

The patch worked as advertised and the help line is added to the comment module.

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yoroy commented

Yay for drastically shorter help texts.

Only niggle I have is I don't think we use 'controls' very often, but settings instead. And I think we can shave off a few more words and put the most important ones first:

change this:
Controls for comments of specific content types are available under the content type\'s <a href="@content-type">edit page</a>.

to this:
Change comment settings on the content type\'s edit page.

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yoroy commented
Status: Reviewed & tested by the community » Needs work

status…

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shawn dearmond commented
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new shawn-yoroy-339417.patch1.88 KB

Alright, here's a patch with yoroy's suggestion.

It's up to the community to decide which should be committed.

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yoroy commented
Status: Needs work » Needs review

testbot?

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dries commented
Status: Needs review » Fixed

Committed to CVS HEAD. Thanks!

Status: Fixed » Closed (fixed)

Automatically closed -- issue fixed for 2 weeks with no activity.