Drupal + Flash Video chat + pay per minute
foxjany - December 30, 2008 - 09:27
I am making a site for live online learning, so I need Flash chat integrated(may be AVchat, 123chat or other as I am not sure yet) and some module for pay per minute calculation in the video chat. So there will be free chat and pay per minute chat.
Can somebody help me?
for live classroom (1-to-N)
for live classroom (1-to-N) streaming, if u have money, u may buy the FMS from adobe. if u do not have that budget, u may use Red5.
Both FMS and Red5 may work well with AVchat and 123.
For pay-per-minute, u may consider pay-userpoint-per-minute unless u can debet money from user's credit / bank accounts.
From technical point of view, it is not very difficult to setup such web site.
Good Day.
Thanks mm167!Yes, I that's
Thanks mm167!
Yes, that's exactly what I am looking for - pay-point-per-minute. Customers buy points/credits and then spend them per minute.
But, I couldn't find such a module.
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foxjany,
I'm certainly not an expert (more like, one notch up from a complete noob), but I have researched video chat for use in e-learning, and I respectfully disagree that it's technically easy.
I think it would still be quite difficult to instigate in a drupal environment even if you were a very competent professional web developer. If you pursue a PPM business model I suspect you will end up paying $3000 per year for a turn-key, all-in-one solution, probably developed for the porn webcam industry rather than intended for business video conferencing or e-learning. Although, I'd love to be proven wrong!
More realistically, what you might be able to do is adjust your payment plan from 'ppm video-chat' to 'monthly website subscription'. There are modules available which allow for areas of your website to be 'paid subscription only', including perhaps the url of the chat software. Whilst some people might 'over-use' the chat in this model, that might be balanced against people who pay for it but then don't use it often. Also, allowing paid access to recorded screencasts is popular in e-learning sites (though the good ones tend to be pirated on bit-torrent).
Do post back if you find an interesting solution, especially if it is PPM.
there's one issue, biz
there's one issue, biz issue, instead of technical, regarding pay-point-per-minute ..
user may like to go backward (re-play) the video. u may need to think about this before design your training school.
one alternative is to ask the user to "buy" the tape before he may watch the video.
There may be a "price" for each video. say, 100 points, 500 points.
each video may be broken into 2 parts - 1) Free pre view part, 2) Pay to view part.
If u still want the pay-per-minute module, it will be something like this:
1. a flash player which will heart-bit with the drupal server for each, say 1 minute.
2. when even the server receive 1 heart-bit, say, 10prints, 20points.. will be deduced from the user's account and credit to the admin's account.
3. Drupal does support server and service
4. Flash may communicate with Drupal easily.
5. transaction details may be stored in mysql.
as I mentioned, this pay scheme may not be applicable to training site but only good for adult sites.
good day.
Dear Mm167! Thanks for the
Dear Mm167!
Thanks for the post.
Yes, I want the pay-per-minute module for adult site. I can't find modules that can handle that.
mm167, I sent you an e-mail yesterday please check your mailbox.
i have replied your email.
i have replied your email. Pls check.
looks there's no such module on the shell.
u may need to develop it.
btw, 1 thing i forgotten to mention, is whether u are talking about live or non-live (video file) broadcasting? U only need Red5 for Live casting.
good day.
Thanks I checked it. Yes
Thanks I checked it.
Yes there aren't so many modules in this section.
And yes for live casting - red5.
if u may setup a red5, i may
if u may setup a red5, i may do a demo for u.
I replied to your e-mail
I replied to your e-mail please reply me there.
Yes, red5 will be installed.
Some clarifications
I am sorry to drop in so late into the discussion but this might be helpful to other people out there looking to build a flash ppv site with Drupal.
For ppv you will need two things
1) a media server (FMS/Red5/Wowza/rtmpd)
2) a video chat application that supports ppv.
Currently I am not aware of any flash video chat application that supports ppv and comes as a Drupal module. Such an application does not exist mainly because it is very hard to develop the part that keeps exact track of time and to make it run without any problems.
In a ppv scenario users will also get angry if you/they have bandwidth problems and the video stops for a few moments, or if the audio is choppy. Why ? because they pay by the second!! :)
So for now a more viable option is to ask your users to pay a monthly membership fee to have access to the video chat or to some of its features like private mesaging/creating rooms, etc... . Both AVChat 2 and 123FlashChat support such a scenario!