By goodman12345 on

Just wondering if I should wait for it or I should use 6.8. I want to do a youtube like website and a drigg website.

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swentel commented

It won't be out for a while - probably last quarter of this year, see http://buytaert.net/predictions-2009 - so D6 is the way to go.

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vm commented

There are still 294 pending issues and 248 critical. goto your profile and turn on your contributor links to place a block in your sidebar on drupal.org.

Even after Drupal 7.x is released you will find some time at hand because contrib modules usually need a few months to catch up to the next core release. Many don't begin working on the next version of their modules until core is released in RC and at this time D7.x is still -dev.

Therefore you have quite a bit of time to use D6.x matter of fact it won't sunset until Drupal 8.x is released.

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goodman12345 commented

Since neither youtube like module nor drigg uses much of other features, 6.8 is good enough. drigg looks very good. I have not seen a website with a youtube like module yet. I also want to upload audio files (for users to upload) i think there is an audio module.
but the only worry is that when drupal 7 comes out and becomes stable, upgrading from 6.8 to 7 might be a problem.

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vm commented

There are modules that handle video and convert it to flv in the downloads area. Flashvideo.module for one.
There is also field addon modules for the CCK module that allow you to add fields to upload audio and/or video.

Worrying about an upgrade path to Drupal 7.x right now shoudn't be part of the equation for you.

Work with Drupal 6.x
when Drupal 7.x is released you check any and all contrib modules you have in use. If they aren't upgraded yet you wait until they are before you leap to Drupal 7.x

Let 7.x mature and it's contrib modules mature. Then backup your site and work with an upgrade on a test site. If all goes well, then you upgrade your production site to 7.x

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goodman12345 commented

Do you think I need to pay to get this done (video, audio, drigg) or I could handle it all by myself? I am also interested in an answer and question module (I posted this problem a long time ago) by which questions are asked and answered like yahoo answers. But it seems that there is no such a module. I kind of remember that someone at the time said that this could be done by view or something. Another thing i am interested is a quiz module. In fact, I would be more interested an exam module, that is, teachers (anyone) can post exams.

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vm commented

I have no idea what your skillset is to be able to tell you whether you need to pay someone to do it or whether you can do it on your own. I suppose it depends more on your time and how much you are willing to invest of yourself. There was a time when none of us knew anything about drupal. The more you test and experiement and break things the more you learn.

There are modules that fit your descriptions in the modules area. ie: there is a question module (I have no experience with it). There is a quiz.mdoule (I have no experience with it). There isn't an exam.module but depending on what type of exame you are looking to have users work with it can most likely be done with a combinataion of modules already in the wild.

Last I read on drigg was that there may have been a problem with it integrating with CCK. I'd read through the active issues to insure that you don't walk yourself in a corner while developing. Last thing anyone would want to do is develop only to find out certain modules play nice together and limiting yourself right out of the gate.

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goodman12345 commented

True. Basically I need to find time to do it. My plan is to have a website (subdomain) for each module (video, audio, drigg, question etc). I think when the websites become big, I can move individual websites to different servers. I hope, this way, each module would not depend too much on other modules.

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goodman12345 commented

Indeed, drigg has problems with CCK.
Thank you.

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johnhanley commented

While Drupal 6 contains many sexy niceties (both from an aesthetics and architectural viewpoint), there's still many compelling reasons to go with Drupal 5. It really depends on the project.

I for one am not necessarily looking forward to Drupal 7 and beyond. Drupal is in fact getting slower and slower. More and more stuff is being added to core and the database is becoming increasingly laden. Piling on more hardware and bandwidth to compensate is not acceptable, IMO. I suspect my opinion is in the minority though.

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goodman12345 commented

In order to build a large website, scalability is the key. That's why I would prefer to build separate websites (as subdomains) for each function (say, drigg, video).

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vm commented

The problematic part of that is that for the subdomains to work with shared users (one login) you will have to share a single database with prefixes.
My experience with this is what you save one end, you spend on the other.

My estimation is that developers who work on core do due diligence with optimizing code. I've come to this conclusion reading the developers list and issues in the D7 issue queue. D7 (or did it get backported to D6 as well?) will contain a new DB abstraction layer which, from what I'm understanding isn't going to make slower.

If a site gets popular and starts gaining an active community you will not want to be on a shared server. Though, I think that holds true with any site built on any script. Sometimes throwing optimised hardware at a site is the only way to expand the site and manage an online entity.

I always tend to ask myself how many major sites run on a single server let alone a shared one?

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goodman12345 commented

I could not use shared hosting because it was way too slow. But if single login has to work with a shared database, then that will be a problem. But I think one possible solution is that we use the same website (name) and put videos/audio on separate servers from drigg. I don't know if this is doable, that is, if videos can be on a separate server from where drupal software is located.

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goodman12345 commented

that should not be a problem. Because for instance, if I put video and drigg on two separate drupal websites, I can create the same shared database, say on drigg site.

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vm commented

I think before you go any further you should "test" on a test installation your ideas and benchmark.

Using the modules you want to use and creating test users and test content which is easily done with the devel.module

Due digilence are the key words for an idea want to bring to any table. The more you test the more you learn, the more you learn the more your ideas can expand. Start small and take baby steps. Crawl before you walk, walk before you run.

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johnhanley commented

My previous comment was not meant to disparage the core development team's efforts. On the contrary, I think they have shown incredible restraint for the most part. I agree the core is generally highly optimized and efficiently coded. I have in fact referred to the core often for instruction and best practice examples. I was also not referring to the hardware requirements for heavily trafficked sites, but rather the increased hardware needed to compensate for bloat.

I consider myself a minimalist when it comes to cycles. I strive to keep things as "thin" as possible. People have asked me, "What's the standard set of third-party modules you start every project with?" and my answer is "It depends". I let the content drive the technology (in terms of which modules to use.) For example I don't automatically install CCK and Views unless they're needed.

My two cents.

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darumaki commented

When will drupal 8 be ready ? "just kidding" personally I think they should get 6 working flawlessly before 7, why in such a hurry for another release, get the current one up to par first.

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olbion commented

I found http://whenwill.org/drupal_7_be_released, according to which Drupal 7 should be released on October 27