Why Is WYSIWYG Such a Pain in the??? Drupal is How Old?

You can use TinyTinyMce with IMCE. It pretty much works out of the box as advertised. Much easier than the regular TinyMce or FCKeditor installs, or even the WYSIWYG route.

But you need to consider the fact that WYSIWYG is the route that core is taking forward, so support maybe be an issue for anything else in days to come (speculation).

Thanks,
Shyam

there are lots of ways of adding images to Drupal. Goto the Media Section in Download Modules.

You should take the night and review which works best for you. (on a test site)

I like CCK Imagefield and ImageCache together

here is a video about that methodology

http://www.drupaltherapy.com/node/47

good luck - you need to expect a learning curve

Just to add a note:

First, be convinced that they all work. You can see that WYSIWYG editors are pretty popular in http://drupal.org/project/usage, and if all these people got them to work, you can too. Any one of them.

Second, because they usually involve integration with some third party code and then some configuration, choose only one, follow their installation instructions to the letter, and don't make any assumptions.

Ive tried about all the wysiwyg modules at one time or another and I can verify that They Do Work. However, as they all involve integration with a 3rd party product (the editor itself), the installation is a bit more complex than the standard drupal module install. From what I read in your posts, I would bet money you're not following the installation instructions completely.

My current recommendation for when you want images to be nodes is fckeditor with the image and image_browser modules.

For cases where you just want inline images that are not nodes themselves i recommend fckeditor with the IMCE module.

Also, due to wysiwyg's spotty support of the fckeditor editor at the moment, I recommend using the fckeditor module itself for the time being (though I fully expect for wysiwyg to completely support fckeditor in the future).

In any case, you'll need to read and follow the installation instructions completely and thoroughly. And post back with any specific questions or issues that come up.

Of course you're free to use whatever CMS you like (and quite frankly, no one really cares what you use but you), but drupal is by far the most powerful and flexible. Yes, there is a learning curve, but the time spent climbing it is well worth it in end. However, if you don't really need that power and flexibility you'd probably be better off using joomla or simplecms.

One other thing-- you might want to tone down your rhetoric in future posts. Insulting the project and the very people you're asking for assistance is rather poor form.

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Funny that I was just going through all of this only this week myself. http://drupal.org/node/371582

I am going to be testing "solutions" and am already giving MUCH thanks and appreciation to the Wonderful Drupal Community for all of their support and advice. Thanks to ALL~!

AK

Just another post to say you're not alone. It took me about 100 hours to research and test the most popular methods for adding media. I eventually settled on IMCE/FCKEditor/JQueryMedia/Lightbox2, which still has inadequacies and quirks. And it is still harder than it should be for the users to add media. However, I'm not sure I could get as much media functionality from any of the other cms, perhaps with the exception of wordpress.

I agree with you... it is important for a CMS to have a wysiwyg editor.... because it is what the editor uses the most.. adding content to a site is what you do most of the time when a site is done. To facilitate the task of adding content is a must.

What I would like to see is a way of inserting the imagefield images into the textarea of the editor with a selected imagecache preset so I can position the image within the article where I want to and at the same time have the images as imagefields... not only as uploaded files with IMCE.
then you can hidden the imagefields for the teaser and full view. and they will be displayed only with the html code of the textarea... but they would be included in the node as imagefields and could be used in views.

would be cool
is it possible? Did I miss something?

After reading a ton of reviews I installed YUI Rich Text Editor at http://drupal.org/project/yui_editor. I installed it just like any other module, no special instructions and the image upload worked out of the box. I do not have any other image module installed. It requires the main YUI module to work, but thats it.

I understand where you're coming from, Robert. First, I agree that Drupal should have a WYSIWYG editor in it's core, right out of the box. I mean, in all reality, no half decent site can live without one. It seems to be a no brainer to me. And believe me, I sure as heck had my rounds with Drupal for the first month or so... many long nites, early mornings, long hours, module after module, install and uninstall, be careful with this, don't touch that... I was going crazy!

But, I honestly have to say that I'm very glad I didn't give up... because Drupal is by far the most powerful and stable CMS available. What it has the power to do is amazing. I used Mambo last, and hey, Mambo is not bad at all. But, it feels dated. Joomla, to me, was frustrating, especially 1.5. Drupal is MUCH, MUCH easier to create content, faster and more logical.

But I will admit that Drupal is lacking a really, really good AND easy image gallery. Brilliant Gallery - I couldn't get working and gace up. Gallery 2 - Nahhh. Flash Gallery - Nope, don't like flash.

OK, so here's what I decided to do: I needed an image gallery AND video gallery. I came across Kaltura - http://drupal.org/project/kaltura and decided to give it a shot. Guess what? For me, it works great (well, almost). It's an all-in-one for image and video - just what I needed. It displays the images in a gallery with thumbs, uses lightbox2... and best of all, it's SUPER simple to upload to the gallery. Videos are handled the same way: Built in file browser, select and then upload. It converts the video in flv... all you do is upload, it does the rest. You can also pull in videos from Youtube and Facebook and images from Flickr and can link to your account on all those sites... and pull in the files from there. For a stand alone all-in-one, it does what I need. It needs a bit of tweaking, but nothing horrible.

Now, for images within content: I use FCK, and have had no problems at all uploading using the FCK file browser, straight onto my server (no ftp needed). I can even create folders once into the server, resize, alt text... all from within FCK. I'm sure you installed correctly, but remember that you do need to grab the module: http://drupal.org/project/fckeditor , then grab the editor: http://www.fckeditor.net/download. Remember to configure the settings in FCK: admin/settings/fckeditor . Make sure you edit the admin settings: admin/settings/fckeditor/edit/Admin . Also, while there, check your file browser settings.

This is all I did, and it works like a charm. I didn't put anything in my sites/modules file: I just dropped fck into the modules file itself, as with all my modules. I tried TinyMCE and TinyTiny, but had some issues. FCK is the best all around that I've found.

I updated our site to Drupal, and am not completely finished with it, but here it is if you wanna take a look at some of the content with images:
www.theparanormalsociety.org and www.theparanormalsociety.org/whats-on-tv will show and image header that I just uploaded with FCK.

And here are the videos and photos, so you can see how Kaltura looks and works:
Images - http://theparanormalsociety.org/kaltura/entries?filter=2&cwurl=
Videos - http://theparanormalsociety.org/kaltura/entries?filter=1&cwurl=

I know you probably did the configuring, but I just wanted to run through it in case you forgot something.

Hope this helps... and good luck!

Chris
www.theparanormalsociety.org

Just found this thread; after looking re using IMCE to create folders for users [not sure it can do so for each indiv user I'd like to ]

Agree Drupal should be stronger re editors and images: indeed seems old-timers into basic text, and no images, much as THIS site [as mentioned above]

Haven't read all posts here, but adding a bit of info lest helpful.

I too have tried several editors and image adding methods.
For articles, come to favour FCKeditor and IMCE.
[for photos to use separately, as in gallery, indeed not so sure re solution; have menalto gallery, and maybe changes there will lead to something better w Drupal; tho views etc should be able to do something. Sadly, efforts seem to be rather scattergun, w various galleries]

Anyway, FCKeditor can be a nuisance, but doesn't really take long to set up if go right route. [but if wrong, can think it's named as often shouting about this FCKing editor!] Indeed must download FCKeditor separately, and include in module, which I'd think better named FCKeditormodule or something.
One thing is that need to have users assigned to groups that can use FCKeditor - even the chief admin [user1] doesn't have permission straight away, which is odd.
Then, can choose re "profiles" for FCKeditor: for yourself and important folk, aim for Drupal full. Maybe use the Advanced profile that comes w the module.
Need to select file browser: use FCKeditor's own browser [though for this seems have to edit a setting in FCKeditor file(s), or more readily enabled IMCE. I'm not so sure re benefits of IMCE for this, beyond being able to create thumbnails during upload if needed.

Then, can browse inside the site's /files/ folder.
Inside this folder, you may want to create more folders - perhaps one for images, maybe more within this. so might be files/images/
I've
Permissions can be an issue here - I wonder if get server error if don't have permission to read/write folders. Permission 777 may be worth a try.

With IMCE, also need to assign profiles to user groups, though at least user1 works right away.
Using this, choose it as browser in FCKeditor options.
There's directory creation tool; just trying, and not obvious if it can create folder for each user. Till now, though, I've been main contributor, so haven't worried about this.

Anyway, once all this is working, becomes pretty easy to browse for existing photos, or to upload them; and to then insert in stories etc you are editing - options for, say, image appearing to left of text, or to right [best to set a couple of pixels horizontal space - padding - if so]. Can add alt text, too.
With image inserted, can resize it by dragging corners w mouse. - as yet, I haven't gone avenue of adding thumbnail, allowing users to then click and see full image w Lightbox, which I think possible but maybe overkill.
Doesn't make for real fancy designs, but works well enough I think.

Ah, and one other thing - you also need to choose an Input Format that does not strip images out of text!
[Long seemed a darn nuisance that such a thing happened with default Drupal - but I've lately had people try to post comments with links that have no text, set at zero pixels, so invisible if don't see code. Some crafty nasty blighters out there, hence all that filtering]
For yourself, as user1, Full HTML should be fine.

Reading this, might seem a faff, but set up new site last night, and getting fckeditor and imce working took only minutes.
Once they are working, creating articles is pretty easy; you can make real progress w Drupal, and move on... On to being baffled by some more modules etc, but also thinking it's good when tags working, related articles showing, menu links created automatically [jquerymenu; a new one for me] and so on.