#480660: Add an 'administrator' role to core just went in, the admin/user/permissions help text could do with updating in the meanwhile before we do #468768: Remove hardcoded anonymous and authenticated user roles.

This also clarifies the inheritance of permissions from authenticated user which doesn't appear to have ever been there. Was working on this with Leisa in #drupal-usability but Dries beat us to it.

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#5 permissions-helptext-481802-5.patch2.41 KBdrupal_was_my_past
admin.patch2.47 KBcatch

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yoroy commented

Yes, better tone of voice and more useful info

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dries commented
Status: Needs review » Fixed

Committed. Thanks!

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David_Rothstein commented
Status: Fixed » Needs work

Hm, I like the text, but I think it might be confusing in the case where their administrator role is not actually named "Administrator". It doesn't really do anything to help people identify which role on the page is currently the administrator role...

It almost feels like an icon (+tooltip) would be a better way to communicate this, rather than help text? An icon could be used other places the role appears too (for example, the user edit page, where it might be useful to call out this role also). The only problem is that I have no idea what a universal icon for "administrator" would look like :)

Also, to nitpick: There seems to be some inconsistency in the capitalization, and probably change "log into" => "log in to" and "meaning this will" => either "meaning it will" or "meaning this role will"?

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aspilicious commented
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String freeze, lets discuss this in D8

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drupal_was_my_past commented
Assigned: Unassigned » drupal_was_my_past
Status: Needs work » Needs review
Issue tags: +String freeze
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new permissions-helptext-481802-5.patch2.41 KB

If #576304: Three roles now, not two -> explain the Administrator role on the Roles page! is committed, then I think the confusion @David_Rothstein brings up in #3 is mitigated. In that case, I suggest that we remove all mention of the Administrator role and allow the help text on admin/people/permissions/roles to explain the Administrator role. Patch attached to that effect.

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Issue tags: -String freeze

#5: permissions-helptext-481802-5.patch queued for re-testing.

Status: Needs review » Needs work

The last submitted patch, permissions-helptext-481802-5.patch, failed testing.

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    - Patch #481802 by catch, leisa: update user permission help text.

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rocketeerbkw commented
Assigned: drupal_was_my_past » Unassigned
Issue summary: View changes
Status: Needs work » Closed (outdated)

The original patch was already committed and the issues mentioned in #481802-3: Update user permissions help text have either been addressed in the last 13 years or there are follow up issues for them. The patch in #481802-5: Update user permissions help text is also outdated, so I'm closing this.

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Issue tags: +Bug Smash Initiative

Added the Bug Smash Initiative tag

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quietone commented

@rkoller, this issue has never been a Bug Report, which is the Bug Smash tag added?

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Issue tags: -Bug Smash Initiative

uh sorry. it was a misunderstanding on my end. after @rocketeerbkw mentioned the closed issue in the #bugsmash channel and also got emote reaction in agreement i thought i would fall under the bug smash category. but i forgot it is bugs only as the name implies and also brandon state by "in the spirit of". my bad sorry. i've removed the tag again. thanks for the headsup and clarification!