The Lullabot team is proud to announce its latest Drupal learning tool: Lullabot Online Workshops. The first of these is "Drupal Fundamentals", a six-week course beginning September 9th, 2009. Each week's live 2-hour streaming video-and-multimedia class will focus one one aspect in the process of building and configuring an entire Drupal site.
Students will be able to watch as the site is built and instructors delve deep into specific topics such as taxonomy, comments, building content types with CCK, and creating both simple and complex content listings with Views. Each weekly discussion will conclude with a question-and-answer period with the Lullabot instructors and a homework assignment to reinforce the lesson.
Each student will get his/her own sandbox Drupal site in which they can set up and experiment with Drupal. Each lesson will be recorded and placed in a student-accessible video archive, so whether one is unable to make it to a live session or simply needs to review, the class will be available to them in the archive. Additionally, students will be able to post to class message board where they can discuss lessons with the instructor and other students.
For information on workshop cost and how to register, visit the Drupal Fundamentals Online Workshop page.
Lullabot is continuing to expand its educational offerings which currently include: The Lullabot Learning Series Drupal tutorial videos and DVDs, Lullabot's conventional in-person Drupal workshops, custom on-site workshops and training, Lullabot's annual Do It With Drupal Conference, and ongoing free podcasts and articles. To keep up with the latest, sign up for the Lullabot mailing list.
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$395 - Are you kidding?
It sounds like a great idea!
Except....it costs $395!!!
What a joke!
Great if your corporate expenses cover it or you work for a big agency.
Garbage if you are just starting out or your budget doesn't stretch that far.
It's also a little disappointing that this is given front page prominence on the drupal site when it is so costly.
If it cost say $95 or less, lots more people would participate and so help spread the world.
Perhaps drupal skills are a closed shop afterall :-(
Yes it will undoubtedly be good stuff. Yes - time is money, bla, bla, bla.
But come on ! $395 ! No way, José.
What is time worth to you?
I see this as a tremendous value if you're looking to ramp up with Drupal. A person's time is not cheap, especially experts such as the Lullabots. They are giving 12 hours of hands on time plus all of the prep time outside of the actual classes.
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Buy the book
$395 is not at all expensive for an online real-time training course. If that's too rich for your blood (which is totally understandable), try the Using Drupal book which was co-authored by about half of Lullabot. Or, spend your time reading about modules and APIs and hanging around the forums and IRC channels. That's how most people learned about using Drupal. If you want the extra, professional help, then you're going to pay for it. That's the same for any other product or platform or system you'll find.
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Price is actually low
@Steady, have you looked into the cost of services like this. $395 is actually pretty inexpensive. When you figure overhead costs (bandwidth, hosting, material prep, etc.) and the cost of the persons time to do the training this is quite normal.
It's not like this is online videos. It's online workshop training.
A year ago I looked into the costs of similar training. Real workshop training costs when you start to add up the expenses involved. They aren't for everyone.
I know exactly what you are
I know exactly what you are saying, but there were probably 100 other ways to say it without sounding so immature.
This is a fair price as far as I can tell.
I manage a training department and know what it's like to manage instructors, classes, courses, budgets, students, and everything in between.
The only thing I was hoping for is a way to get access a la carte.
I was mostly interested in the Views stuff, everything else I'm set.
Any way to pay for just some of the modules and attend those?
Perhaps not so expensive after all
After seeing the various comments about price I have looked into this a little more.
I see Lullabot are a commercial organisation. (In my naivety with all matters Drupal, I thought the company was connected with Drupal.org - open source etc - and not independant).
On that basis I see it is approximately at the going rate, give or take, and may even be at the cheaper end of the scale.
Still, if you are a one man band trying to learn drupal for your own little sites, in your own spare time etc. then it is a chunk of change. I guess this isn't the market it is aimed at.
A pity really.
Come on, get real ...
You can hang in there reading through all of drupal.org, spend hours on IRC, buy dozens of other Drupal books (like me) for hundreds of dollars...
But consider, if you want to get started quickly and have more money than time (well, it's not even a week's pay for a tradesman...) , it's not that bad after all.
If you still don't agree to pay in order to get *condensed* knowledge, well, go out there and book some dodgy "build your own website in one weekend" course. It'll teach you how to build your own website (yes!) using some outdated HTML text file editor and other fun stuff of the last century. And, oh yes, you'll pay about 700 Aussie dollars for that course, that's about 400 USD.
Sure, you could make it cheaper in order to attract a wider audience. But I reckon, the Lullabots will eventually find the sweet spot between high price and market saturation. Drupal is still in its infancy (user base compared to what it offers) and it is constantly attracting more users. We'll wait and see.
not unreasonable
given what most university level and professional development courses tend to cost, i don't see this as being an unreasonable fee. i think that if such a thing had been around 3 years ago when i first began working with drupal, it would have been worth at least $395 for hands on experience and question/answer sessions with professional, top line drupal developers. thinking of course of how many man hours such a thing would have saved me in the long run.
qft, I was actually expecting
qft, I was actually expecting it to float around 500
Lynda.com has great Drupal training
I just bought a subscription to Lynda.com for $25/month that includes hundreds of high-quality instructional videos, including two great Drupal courses.
Seems like a much better deal...
Drupal dojo
Beyond the existing videos, books and lynda.com, there are also the drupal dojos. Anyone remember those?
two courses...
... and this is not just video. Apples vs oranges.
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Decent price point
Training ain't cheep.
great idea - from great folks
This seems like a great idea from a bunch of great folks. Congratulations on launching this program. I hope it's successful!
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great idea from big minds!
yeah... sounds expensive but it's worth it. $395 pays for their time, effort and everything! But the most important thing is - it pays for your time in learning Drupal on your own! Wish you success Lullabot!
I signed up - as a September
I signed up - as a September birthday present to myself *beams*. I can't imagine many others in the world who could provide better training for Drupal. Thanks Lullabots - see you in September. (Might be a song there, somewhere?)
Take a trip to India :-)
OpenKick Technologies in India provides 2 months full-time extensive classroom training in India for Drupal and Ruby on Rails with hands on end-to-end project development as a part of your training which helps you hash out common issues you encounter during development, deployment challenges, etc. Costs around $1000.
For online classroom training $395 is not bad price at all from Lullabot.
true professionals
Congrats lullabot if a find the time I will subscribe
It's a fair price to !
I buy all off your videos and a learn a lot about drupal
Keep up your great work !!!
Not CHEAP but...
compared to many other similar online courses and definitely compared to "in person" training it's a major bargain. I've occasioned to view a few Lullabot training videos and they've been most informative. I suspect this training series to continue in that vein. Having said that, I'm in the nascent stages of experimenting with Drupal and am substantially impressed with it but not at the point where I can rationalize the $395. Were I anticipating imminently "Drupalling For Money" you can bet I'd be signing up ASAP. Perhaps the next class.
In any case good show Lullabot!
Lullabot Online Workshops.
This is great step.
i like the idea it will rock.
good work keep it up.
zakir.gori
Lynda.com training is 25.00
Lynda.com training is 25.00 per month on any and all training.
There are currently two Drupal packages, and more in the works.
Different offering?
Hm, unless I'm mistaken the Lynda stuff is just vids you watch whereas this Lullabot workshop is *live* and you get to interact with the instructor (plus homework, yay!). To me, that is a totally different thing, so not sure why people keep bringing up Lynda. I'd *love* to spend the money for the live class. Out of my budget atm, but totally reasonable IMHO, and better than the Lynda vids (if the word about Lullabot training is good).
Right, the Lullabot is
Right, the Lullabot is probably better.
However, starting out with Drupal I'd suggest to get as much training free and cheap, build some sites first.
Lynda is just videos, but there are working files you can use to work along with the video.
That is good training, maybe not as good a lullabot, but nevertheless good for what is being taught.
Also, I think there are projects that are more imperative and spending that much money for Lullabot is not outrageous.
Think about it, if you got the 19 million dollar contract to build the recovery.com drupal site for Obama... you could afford alot of expensive training.
That is the craziest thing I ever heard; spending that much money on a website. My gosh, we should all be getting at least a million per site 1/19th seems fair to me.
where did u find that it cost
where did u find that it cost 19million to build recovery.org?
Heard it on TV from a number
Heard it on TV from a number of sources.
One news reporter said it was 12 million another said it was 19 million.
It really doesn't make much difference, it so far beyond nonsense at either cost.
Has to be a good ole boy taking care of the troops kinda thing.
American people are so overwhelmed by all the craziness in spending and increasing of debt by our out of control government.. we are just spinning.
Helter Skelter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOKdrZFyfOk
Great idea
Great idea!
I think this is a great idea, now european drupalers can attend to Lullabot master classes.
Besides that, almost no other company but Lullabot deserves getting profit from Drupal now improving knowledge on the new cms enterprise learning market.
Congratulations!
I agree with José. It's just
I agree with José. It's just crazy cost. Why you do close D env.
cost
This is reasonable for any professional course here in OZ.
Been waiting for this!
I watch lots of video's & listen to a ton of podcasts, but you don't get the Q&A I have found I want. This is less then $35 an hour and you get to ask questions. I think this is a very fair price for that. I did gulp, as I do see $395 as a large chunk of my budget, so I hear what your saying, however to be able to learn and then ASK is well worth this. There are just things that I just don't get, and I am hoping that this course will help me to understand those areas. It's pretty much right in line with what I've seen on other subjects. It all comes down to what is important and what you find of value. I've been waiting for this chance for over 2 years now. I for one am very excited!