Typ03 versus Drupal
tng713 - April 19, 2006 - 00:54
After doing some research on the web, it seems that currently, the two most popular CMS are Drupal and Typo3. Since i'm new to the CMS space, have anyone done any detail evaluation between the two and if so, can you share the data with us? We are looking to port our online web services (minimum of a few million pageviews per day) to the CMS platform and we would like to know which CMS will take us there the quickest (easy of use (installation and configuration), fair learning curve and good community support etc...)
Thanks much
T.N.
Welcome!
Welcome to the Drupal community. Your first stop should by the is Drupal right for me? section of the handbook. You'll find tons of information in there. I personally have not used Typo3, so I cannot comment.
With respect to learning curves, you'dll find Drupal does many things out of the box, however, if you wanted to create something unique, you will need to invest some time in learning The Drupal Way, however, Drupal is very modular and is designed to be easy to add and remove things as you please. It is not designed to be one large monolithic application, such as phpBB, etc.
As for installation, if you've ever installed a PHP web-based application, it will take you a minute to have a live site. Depending on what you want to do, either out of the box modules or write your own, either a prebuilt theme or design your own, etc, depends on how long it will be until your site is finished.
Think of Drupal as a bunch of Legos. You can snap together a simple looking house in minutes, but to create an entire scale model of lower Manhattan will take you a bit of time.
it is hard to find
I started to use T3, but felt there were a few barriers. I'm very happy I gave Drupal a try instead. There are a few areas that I can probably comment on, although I can't give you a good comparison of the internal workings. Anyway, that and a few other points follow:
1) Just as Brian referred to the Drupal Way, so there is also a Typo3 Way and both paths require a little patience. It is hard to find people who "know" both Typo3 and Drupal because they don't have a spare few months extra to get to know the other system.
2) A real problem for me was accessbility, which related to the way the community is organised - I find it elitist that they can't have a simple forum for newbies. I mean, Drupal has just as many development mailing lists as Typo3, but Typo3 doesn't have the same emphasis on nice approachable forums that drupal.org has.
3) I have also seen Typo3 described as a great toolkit for people who know php. So I think they are quite similar in this way. I don't think you can go wrong if you ultimately want a great platform for your superkool website.
4) I prefer the sublime leadership of Dries over whatever it is that Kasper does. The curious way that Typo3 incorporates religion, makes marketing Typo3 really difficult. I mean, I'm cool with Christians, my Mum's one, but can I really recommend a system to my corporate customers that uses biblical images in the configuration script? It's just a little skewed.
HTH
Simon
I do agree that both Drupal
I do agree that both Drupal & Typo3 are on the top of all other PHP OSCMSs.
Minimum requirements to customise the systems
Drupal:
PHP & CSS/HTML
Typo3:
Typoscript & HTML/CSS
Actually
I used typo3 for a couple of years before switching to drupal. And they actually strongly emphasize that typo3 is for everyone and that the christian part is a personal issue for Kasper (the founder) although his blogs are accessible through typo3.org. He does however wish that typo3 is not used for anything racist or pornographic.
Anyway. IMO Typo3 is a totally different take on a cms. Page-oriented for a start. And more complex and "heavy" perhaps. But it's all down to taste I guess. There are a bunch of modules that does all you ever wanted to do for both cms'es.
But I must say I personally enjoy the fast responsive community of drupal in contrast to the typo3 foundation (as stated above) and the much more modern and lean cms drupal is IMHO.
yes I agree
You are right, there were no limitations placed on me using the software.
heavy
yes that's the first word that comes to mind when someone says Typo3. Drupal is light.
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nice to hear.
I love hearing that. I didn't get far enough into T3 to work that out for sure.
and slow
I tried Typo3 a few months ago before discovering Drupal.
One problem for me was that Typo3 was really slow on shared hosting. Drupal is really faster and I found its hooks & modules system much more clean and attractive.
I am using typo3 since
I am using typo3 since version 3.5 (since 2002) & drupal drupal since 2 years. What I like most about typo3 is the backend and its features. It is a grown up cms system but still has many disadvantages.
e.g. :
- no preconfigured themes
- very difficult to set up
- no so called plug and play
- no real community features
- eats up server resources
- most extensions are alpha or beta (not very many stable extensions)
- learn typoscript in order to configure properly
It all depends on the project you are trying to achieve. If you need community features then stick to drupal but in case you need to manage content and media, Typo3 could be the way to go. But remember in order to create a simple webpage in typo3, you gotta read & learn a lot.
The developers from typo3 aren't sure how the next version of typo is going to look like, but it will be a killer cms sytem (typo3 version 5.0). The bad part is that they will need a least 2 years developing time.
For the short run drupal might be the choice and for the long run typo3.
I'd go with drupal ..
The sheer difference at start between drupal and T3 is the learning curve... some people say that drupal is hard... but in in comparison to T3, with drupal, you are up and running in a jippy. Especially now with this PHPtemplate engine.. wich is utterly a no-brainer.
If you are new to CMSses, I would not recommend diving into T3... OTher packs wich you may atry are joomla / mambo... but I have lots of experience with those and I would really only use them for projects with wich it is VERY important for the owner of the site to updat his stuff easily ...
If I'd pick a cms from a quality / ease of use perspective... I'd go with drupal ...
gdev
What about EZ?
My boss keeps on bugging me with EZ publish (www.ez.no), I started a thread here: http://drupal.org/node/58125, but never really got the answer to my question.
What has EZ got that makes it such a "success" at least in a lot of media?
I just find it hard to set up, difficult to use, and allmost impossible to figure out how to extend. (the last point may be due to a heavy Druapl bias, and general laziness though..)
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