Hi

After trying to upgrade from 4.7 to 6 (having hard time) I saw that there is another cms in the market
WEBGUI.

It is for those who don't know php/css/html/sql etc....

Do you recommend trying webgui or should I stick to drupal (which I love but can't spend hours on every small thing that I need to change in the system)

Thanks.

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nevets’s picture

I think the telling line in your post is

which I love but can't spend hours on every small thing that I need to change in the system

There are lots of CMSs out there, each has their own way of doing things, each their own set of default behaviors. So the question is really not about needing to know PHP but how easy/hard it is to bend a particular CMS to your will. HTML/CSS will only get you so far if a CMS does not do exactly what you want and you can't live with out a feature works. Drupal has a rich set of contributed modules that may do what you want, but you sound like the find of person who is always want to look under the hood and since Drupal works as a framework you can do that. So it there is a CMS that better meets your needs out of the box, I say go for it.

As for upgrading, you need to go from 4.7 to 5.x to 6.x

e2’s picture

The problem is not the system like it is with those small things that I need to change.

It is very hard to do it without knowing php.

WorldFallz’s picture

That's likely to be true with any CMS. However, I find drupal to be far more friendly to tweaks then just about any other CMS out there. Regardless, the amount of php knowledge required to customize a CMS will be inversely proportional to your tolerance of alternatives. If you are very detail oriented and simply must have your exact vision of functionality implemented, be prepared to have to learn-- whatever cms you choose. Alternatively, be prepared to pay someone else to realize your vision.

vm’s picture

The only person who can really answer this question is you. If you aren't comfortable with Drupal you can certainly test other CMS's to see if you can find one that is more suitable to your skillset. However, and as nevets already hinted at, every CMS is differnt. Without knowing what the "small things" are that you are talking about you can very well run into the same issue with any CMS.

aklouie’s picture

I have no php and CSS background and limited html and SQL and found drupal 6 to be easy enough to figure out (and no prior CMS experiance either). You already have a basis in drupal since you worked on 4.7, building on 6 should be easier than learning a whole new CMS.

e2’s picture

Drupal is indeed a very good system , AFTER you finish to configure all the small things.

I read that with webgui you can do anything without any knowledge with php.

I wasted many hours trying to configure tinymce, now I'm trying to remove the "search this site"
near the search box, after looking in other posts , it seems very hard to do this simple task.

That is why all the thinking......

I don't think I will go for other cms because some minor things.

vm’s picture

every theme is a bit different.

removing text does not require php skills. However it may require some css skills. use teh firefox browser with the firebug addon and inspect the element and check the css or link your site so that others can help with css issues.

Fact of the matter is, while you don't need any php, css or HTMl skills to set up drupal, to customize it exactly the way you envision it, you will indeed need to learn a few things about each of the languages involved in the underlying architecture and this would also be true of any CMS.