Gathering input for panels 3 presentation

dasjo - November 3, 2009 - 19:37
Project:Panels
Version:6.x-3.x-dev
Component:Documentation
Category:support request
Priority:minor
Assigned:Unassigned
Status:closed
Description

i'm preparing a panels 3 presentation for drupalcamp vienna on november 27/28
http://drupalcamp.at/de/sessions/panels-0

currently, i plan to cover the following topics:
Introduction
- Panel Pages
- Panel Nodes
- Mini Panels

Advanced
- Page Manager - apply panels on a rules-basis to system pages like node view, node edit etc
- Ctools Context Integration - pass parameters/arguments to panels and forward them to included elements like views
- Custom Layouts - create custom layouts. Use Case: 960.gs Grid System

what else would you consider worth, packing into a 45 minute panels presentation?

do you know any cool diagrams, illustration, podcasts regarding panels 3?

performance. i hear people fearing panels, because they consider it as a quite heavy module. what are your thoughts here?

panels-alternatives. using http://drupal.org/project/context and blocks seems a more lightweight approach to me. there is also composite layout http://drupal.org/project/composite

personally i have built two website using panels mainly to override node-view system pages per type and i find the interface quite useful because it lets you play around nicely using the ttw-interface. and it's nice to define custom layouts to pull in 960.gs functionality. on the otherhandside, the approach feels a bit too-much in comparison to a lightweight context & blocks solution, which i personally never gave a try...

so this is just about getting some input / feedback in preparation for my presentation.

thanks and best regards, josef

#1

merlinofchaos - November 9, 2009 - 22:26
Status:active» fixed

The module does a pretty good job of keeping itself light. People who think it is heavy haven't actually performed benchmarks on it, so they're just talking without knowing. sdboyer has performed benchmarks on it, and found that Panels adds less than 10% to a page. Given the power it's giving, that's a pretty good tradeoff.

There is no 'panel pages' anymore, so I would discourage talking about that as a concept. There is the Page Manager, which is actually more its own thing, but because the only thing you can put *in* the page manager, at this time, is a Panel, it seems like it's all about Panels. I hope, in the future, to allow more than just Panels in the page manager.

The context stuff, by far, is the most important thing to talk about, because it's the hardest to understand. I have a slideshow up on slideshare that I did back in the Panels 2 days with nodequeue. While a lot of it is no longer relevant, the diagrams that are in it describing context still are. They might make a good basis for something new.

The Panels approach is a fairly Serious approach, but the 'lightweight' blocks approach has such a horrid UI that it's difficult to really recommend it.

#2

dasjo - November 10, 2009 - 18:53

great, thanks for your input!

the mentioned slideshow is at http://www.slideshare.net/merlinofchaos/panels-2-and-nodequeue-2

#3

jonskulski - November 10, 2009 - 19:32

Where I work (chapter3) we push we push the panels paradigm. You might want talk to populist, he just did a talk on panels 3 at badcamp 2009.

http://badcamp.net/session/panels-3-power-chaos-magic

slides @ http://rychosis.org/slides/Powers-of-Chaos-Panels-BADCAMP-10-17-09.pdf

#4

System Message - November 24, 2009 - 19:40
Status:fixed» closed

Automatically closed -- issue fixed for 2 weeks with no activity.

#5

dasjo - November 29, 2009 - 08:51
 
 

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