How can I configure polls?

Hi Mario!
Thanks for your kind reply!
No, I don´t have any deadline, but it´s a feature that could definately defeat (in my opinion) all other polls, because that way you can have any kind of community content (forums, chats, and everything that is a node) to optionally have a poll too. And that´s absolutely terrific. This module could be use by article´s authors in a newspaper to receive specific opinions from readers...! The possibilities are endless.

But I think [and need] more control, because as a site admin, I don´t like people to set (for example) a specific aumont of votes on certain responses in each polls. In a community site I want polls to show the real votes. Just giving an example here.

Anyway, I think this module is the answer for all "poll needs", but really would need some sort of configuration control for the site admin.

Thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rosamunda

I´m definately keeping an eye on this, and most certainly will help testing!
:)

Maybe another workaround option could be (maybe I´m saying something stupid here), to let the module form filter to apply its filters inside each poll´s items instead of taking the poll as a "whole"...?
Maybe to apply a functionality some sort of similar, where you can turn off each item inside polls...?

Rosamunda

I´ve tested the dev version, and it´s an all-or-nothing thing, I mean it woud be better in my opinion, to set for each feature, the ability to turn it off. In example, I don´t want people to be able to set an initial quantity of votes, the poll should reflect the real votes.

I didn´t find how to do that in the dev version. Could it be already implemented and I just didn´t get it?

Thanks for your help!

Rosamunda

Hi!
Yes, I´ll test it. As far as I´ve see it works, but I´ll test it more, with several poll types.
You´re right, this could lead to hundreds of permissions, and unthinkable loads of checkboxes and load time.

Hm... maybe in a way that wouldn´t affect the permissions page?
Just an idea here:

Permissions:
Vote on polls
Create polls
Administer Poll Forms

a poll page under settings that could manage the template that would be visible for all users that can vote on and create polls.
For each polltype it could appear a list of checkboxes, one for each pollchoice. That way when the user hasn´t any poll permission it would not see the poll, and when it has the create polls permission, it would see just the choices that are checked. BUT, this won´t be managed with the permissions directely, but with the module, that could just hide the options if the settings page tells him so.

Maybe I´m just rumbling here? It´s just an idea of how the module could be much more flexible and even extensible in poll configurations.

Rosamunda

Hi again Mario :)
December is a very busy month of the year for me... sorry for the delay!
I like the idea of a discussion group... but I think there is already a voting group on GDO.
You mean to continue this discussion there?
Cheers!
Rosamunda

Hi again Mario :)
I´ve found Advanced Poll Group and Voting Systems.
Do you think we could create another group? Or could we work within the Voting Systems?
If you think that voting systems maybe has a wider target, and you just don´t have time, I could create a Group for this module.
Or maybe yet another group isn´t necessary...?
(Anyway, I think this module could replace Advanced Poll!).
Cheers!

As it looked easier to create a group, I´ve created a pollfield one.
It´s up and running (but awaiting approval to be on the public directory).
So we can start to put some stuff there.

That´s exactly the reasons we´ve opened a group in g.d.o, to discuss how this excellent module could be improved. Because adding to it more [let´s call them] permission options it is the perfect poll module out there.
Because there´s no reason to "create polls" separated of the rest of content types.
Any content type could be a poll.

I think we should continue this discussion in the group... and maybe add more suggestions! (that´s why I think "mantainer needs more info" is the bes status... please correct me if I´m wrong).

Cheers!

Well... the group´s idea didn´t worked out...
I´ve received a denial message from the g.d.o. administrator, telling me that that kind of things belonged to grou´s issue queue...

Anyway (chuif), let´s continue here...

Where were we...?

1. permission by node module (edit any, edit own, delete any, delete own and create)
- this related to whole node
2. permission by content_permissions module (we edit and view permission)
- this is related to the cck fields
- those permissions are subordinate to permission by node module
3. permission by pollfield module (see results and admin pollfield)
- this is related on pollfield strictly
- those permissions are subordinate to content_permissions

For now I see problem that if you not allowed user to administer node they don't have any way to admin poll.

The thing is that the only permissions maybe should be to vote on polls, to create polls and to administrate polls. People to administrate polls would be able to edit the poll and change its options even after it started.

Another thing what I notice some people want that anonymous cant post the poll but that only author can edit. This is very hard issue because there is no good way for tracking anonymous users (see http://drupal.org/node/616954).

I don´t think letting the nonymous users to post polls could be a very good idea. Anyway, if anyone could want that, could let anonymous to have create polls permission.

Your suggested permission is very reasonable. We need to figure where to put it, is there any overlapping with existing permission, can we achieve this through existing permission, what we want that can not be achieved by paradigm?

I think that most of it can be achieved with existing permissions, because the thing with actual perms is that pollfield is treated as a whole, when it has a lot of stuff inside. So the permissions inside each polltype should be managed within a settings page.

Example

Content type: Poll Type A
It has these fields: Title, body, field_whatever, field_pick_a_color (pollfield)
When you enter that field edit page, there should appears all settings with some checkboxes like:
- Allow anonymous voting
- Allow users to cancel vote
- Allow users with admin poll permissions to change starting votes on each option
etc...

Users with CREATE poll permission will be able to create polls but won´t be able to change the checkboxes settings, while users with ADMIN polls permissions could be able to edit all options always.

What do you think? That way, you won´t have spaghetty permissions, and you can change the way each poll works according to each pollfield, wich will be handled by the pollfield module..

Even more, if an admin wants to create a single nodetype with different poll options according to roles, it can add several different poll fields inside a single nodetype, and change each cck field permissions accordingly (cck perms would manage perms in that case).

Cheers!

Yes, exactly!!

Now,
What we are missing also is to change pollfield setting if you don't have permission to edit node.
I really don´t know how can be managed those. But, create and edit perms are two different things, so, maybe even users with edit perms still should have the admin polls to be able to change polls settings.

Example:

CCK Permissions: Create poll || Edit poll
New Permission: Admin poll

Users with "create" and "edit" poll perms but without "admin poll" perm will be able to create polls and set the poll setting that the site admin have let them to create (ie. if the site admin didn´t check the "Allow users with admin poll permissions to change starting votes on each option" for that kind of poll, that user won´t be able to see that option). That user will be able to edit the node.

Users with create end edit poll perms AND "admin poll" perms, will be able to manage all poll permissions always.

Hope this makes sense yo you :)
I think this idea is taking a nice shape, don´t you?

(I truly think this module will takeover all other polltype modules)

Cheers!

Hi again Mario!

Once you mention that this is now "all or nothing" case. What did you mean by that?

In the latest release you added a special permission, so people could select wich roles would be able to admin polls. But either you´ve got that permission, where users can edith "all" poll options, or you don´t have that perm, when users will not be able to do nothing.
That´s when I suggested that as the pollfield is taken by the cck permission field as a whole, maybe the poll module should take care of the different options inside the pollfield, without creating more and more permissions.

If we have something like edit button at poll which is visible only to user who has permission to edit then we don't need permission to edit node to have ability to edit poll.

You mean using that new perm already created by pollfield module in the latest dev version?

Hi!
I think that having two posts for the same thing is going to be confusing (and drive you mad about all proposals).
I´m making this duplicate and following the conversation there if you´re ok with it :)

Let´s continue: "The future of Pollfield"

Rosamunda