Closed (fixed)
Project:
Drupal core
Version:
7.x-dev
Component:
documentation
Priority:
Normal
Category:
Bug report
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Created:
16 Nov 2009 at 09:09 UTC
Updated:
3 Jan 2014 at 00:29 UTC
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Comment #1
batigolixclosing tag missing in first patch
Comment #3
jhodgdonA couple of comments on this patch:
a)
Second line should either have .= or the first line should be omitted.
b) "context sensitive help" should be "context-sensitive help"
c) "is annotated with user-contributed comments and serves as..." needs a comma before the and. See http://drupal.org/about/authoring
Comment #4
batigolixthanks for the review
here is my new attempt
Comment #5
heather commentedFormatting looks good.
Just doing a review of the text. 'more' appears close by 2 times. Moving it to the sentence focusing on what online handbooks are.
Before:
After: (just a small change... I wanted to change the epic sentence about online handbooks, but might be best to emphasize this).
Comment #6
batigolixthanks. i like the reviewed version
Comment #7
jhodgdonMe too.
Comment #8
arianek commentedcapitalized H for consistency with other help texts that have been committed. re-RTBC.
Comment #9
jhodgdonStill looks good to me too.
Comment #10
jhodgdonActually
The standard for capitalization is not being followed. See http://drupal.org/node/632280 -- should start with "The foo module" not "The Foo module" according to standard.
Comment #11
batigolix'ere ye go
Comment #12
batigolixneeds review
Comment #13
jhodgdonStandard for capitalization was changed, see http://drupal.org/node/537828#comment-2303764 and http://drupal.org/node/632280 -- we are now saying the name of the module should be capitalized. Sorry for the inconvenience but we need a new patch...
I would have suggested going back to the patch in #8, but that is missing one of the capitalizations on the module name too.
Comment #14
lisarex commentedOK rerolled but I made the 'handbook' in the 3rd sentence plural and so had to change the grammar. Also added cap to other existing lowercase module.
Comment #15
arianek commentedcleaned up a bunch of the language, and made that final About sentence match the others.
Comment #16
jhodgdonLooks good, let's get this one in!
Comment #17
webchickHm. One thing that's not quite right. Help does indeed provide context-sensitive help: that's what you see when you go to a page like admin/config/modules and see text at the top explaining how it works. But that is not the same thing as admin/help/X which is not context-sensitive at all, and is instead a... "reference"? Hm. Something.
So we need to re-title "Context-sensitive help" to something else, and add a new entry for Context-sensitive help that basically says Help module will provide little bits of text at the top of certain pages to provide additional assistance.
Comment #18
arianek commentedwow, ok well *that* is a big miss! i've totally updated this one with a more explicit division between the context-sensitive help and the main help pages ("Help reference pages"). i think it can use another review due to the pretty major changes, before it gets RTBC'ed.
Comment #19
jhodgdonHmmm...
For some reason, the word examples is bothering me in "a brief explanation and examples of uses for each module ...". I don't think we're providing examples per se, but rather explaining what the module can be used for. ???
I'm also not sure if we need the word "further" in " provides further context-sensitive advice " ... Further than what?
And I think I would prefer the wording "displays" rather than "provides", because the modules themselves actually contain the help and the help module is just a mechanism for displaying the help in the ref section and on the admin screens.
By the way, one more thought: Do we talk about "pages" or "screens" in admin? Maybe the help module "displays context-sensitive advice on various administrative screens" would be a better wording?
I sure seem to be more full of questions than answers this morning...
Comment #20
arianek commented- yes, not really examples.
- further than the main help reference pages
- sure, displays is a bit more precise
- i haven't seen "screens" used anywhere, so i would hate to have to retroactively make that change everywhere there is "page"
someone wanna put these suggestions into a patch? ;-)
Comment #21
batigolixhe, he: patch #17
Comment #22
arianek commentedno wonder that patch didn't do anything, it's empty :-p wanna reupload that if you still have it?
Comment #23
jhodgdonI would still prefer changing "provides" to "displays" in a few places (such as the DT items), but I can live with this version if others like it.
Comment #24
lisarex commentedRerolled, incorporating comments from #23 and a slight revision of the 'Providing a help reference' section
Comment #25
lisarex commentedAnd how about a screenshot instead of two patches?! ;-)
Comment #26
arianek commentedLooks most excellent. RTBC!
Comment #27
webchickCommitted to HEAD! Thanks!