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batigolix’s picture

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closing tag missing in first patch

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The last submitted patch failed testing.

jhodgdon’s picture

A couple of comments on this patch:
a)

+      $output = '';
+      $output = '<h3>' . t('About') . '</h3>';

Second line should either have .= or the first line should be omitted.

b) "context sensitive help" should be "context-sensitive help"

c) "is annotated with user-contributed comments and serves as..." needs a comma before the and. See http://drupal.org/about/authoring

batigolix’s picture

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thanks for the review

here is my new attempt

heather’s picture

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Formatting looks good.

Just doing a review of the text. 'more' appears close by 2 times. Moving it to the sentence focusing on what online handbooks are.

Before:

help-default7.png

After: (just a small change... I wanted to change the epic sentence about online handbooks, but might be best to emphasize this).

help-revised.png

batigolix’s picture

thanks. i like the reviewed version

jhodgdon’s picture

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Me too.

arianek’s picture

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capitalized H for consistency with other help texts that have been committed. re-RTBC.

jhodgdon’s picture

Still looks good to me too.

jhodgdon’s picture

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Actually
The standard for capitalization is not being followed. See http://drupal.org/node/632280 -- should start with "The foo module" not "The Foo module" according to standard.

batigolix’s picture

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'ere ye go

batigolix’s picture

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needs review

jhodgdon’s picture

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Standard for capitalization was changed, see http://drupal.org/node/537828#comment-2303764 and http://drupal.org/node/632280 -- we are now saying the name of the module should be capitalized. Sorry for the inconvenience but we need a new patch...

I would have suggested going back to the patch in #8, but that is missing one of the capitalizations on the module name too.

lisarex’s picture

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OK rerolled but I made the 'handbook' in the 3rd sentence plural and so had to change the grammar. Also added cap to other existing lowercase module.

arianek’s picture

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cleaned up a bunch of the language, and made that final About sentence match the others.

jhodgdon’s picture

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Looks good, let's get this one in!

webchick’s picture

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Hm. One thing that's not quite right. Help does indeed provide context-sensitive help: that's what you see when you go to a page like admin/config/modules and see text at the top explaining how it works. But that is not the same thing as admin/help/X which is not context-sensitive at all, and is instead a... "reference"? Hm. Something.

So we need to re-title "Context-sensitive help" to something else, and add a new entry for Context-sensitive help that basically says Help module will provide little bits of text at the top of certain pages to provide additional assistance.

arianek’s picture

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wow, ok well *that* is a big miss! i've totally updated this one with a more explicit division between the context-sensitive help and the main help pages ("Help reference pages"). i think it can use another review due to the pretty major changes, before it gets RTBC'ed.

jhodgdon’s picture

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Hmmm...

For some reason, the word examples is bothering me in "a brief explanation and examples of uses for each module ...". I don't think we're providing examples per se, but rather explaining what the module can be used for. ???

I'm also not sure if we need the word "further" in " provides further context-sensitive advice " ... Further than what?

And I think I would prefer the wording "displays" rather than "provides", because the modules themselves actually contain the help and the help module is just a mechanism for displaying the help in the ref section and on the admin screens.

By the way, one more thought: Do we talk about "pages" or "screens" in admin? Maybe the help module "displays context-sensitive advice on various administrative screens" would be a better wording?

I sure seem to be more full of questions than answers this morning...

arianek’s picture

- yes, not really examples.
- further than the main help reference pages
- sure, displays is a bit more precise
- i haven't seen "screens" used anywhere, so i would hate to have to retroactively make that change everywhere there is "page"

someone wanna put these suggestions into a patch? ;-)

batigolix’s picture

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he, he: patch #17

arianek’s picture

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no wonder that patch didn't do anything, it's empty :-p wanna reupload that if you still have it?

jhodgdon’s picture

I would still prefer changing "provides" to "displays" in a few places (such as the DT items), but I can live with this version if others like it.

lisarex’s picture

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Rerolled, incorporating comments from #23 and a slight revision of the 'Providing a help reference' section

lisarex’s picture

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And how about a screenshot instead of two patches?! ;-)

arianek’s picture

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Looks most excellent. RTBC!

webchick’s picture

Status: Reviewed & tested by the community » Fixed

Committed to HEAD! Thanks!

Status: Fixed » Closed (fixed)
Issue tags: -d7help

Automatically closed -- issue fixed for 2 weeks with no activity.