once in a while in my web travels i get stopped by a mollom
spam check and get slightly annoyed. i have no idea how many times i
have posted comments and have passed silently. i think that if people
knew that their comments were being silently checked, they would feel
better about mollom.

so, my proposal is to add an optional read-only item to the comment
form that says "spam check by mollom". this would be a huge marketing
move by you; today we only know about mollom when a site thinks that
we are possible spammers.

i considered that there might be security/load risks about disclosing
that a form is protected by mollom before a user posts anything. i
can't think of a problem with it that would too terrible.

Comments

sun’s picture

Title: Add marketing messafe to comment form » Add marketing message to comment form

+1

I can only guess that it might have been skipped, because paid subscribers may want to not have such a promotional link. But then again, I see no reason why it shouldn't be configurable for all users and default to "on".

dries’s picture

It is good marketing for Mollom, but more importantly, it is probably the right thing to do from a privacy point of view -- we should probably link to the Mollom web service privacy policy?

scoutbaker’s picture

I'm OK with this as long as it's optional. After all, the Mollom service agreement (for the free service), states, in part:

You agree that you are the controller of the personal data being processed, and that it is your responsibility to duly inform your website visitors, and to obtain appropriate consent from them to allow us to process the personal data as set forth above.

As a guideline, you will at least publish a message that informs visitors that "by posting a message, you accept that your message and other personal details about you will be analyzed and stored for anti-spam and quality monitoring purposes, in accordance with Mollom's privacy policy", accompanied by a link to either our Web Service Privacy Policy or your own privacy policy (provided your privacy policy duly informs your website visitors about the privacy aspects of the Service).

There are many ways these notices can be handled, depending on the site. Forcing one particular way would be...not nice. If I've chosen to provide information and link to my privacy policy, I don't necessarily want a second notice pointing to Mollom's policy directly on my form.

Personally, I happen to go overboard and link to my own policy, and Mollom's.

sun’s picture

Title: Add marketing message to comment form » Add privacy policy link to forms protected via textual analysis
Assigned: Unassigned » sun
Status: Active » Needs review
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Here we go.

I spent quite some time on the wording + description of the administrative setting to enable/disable, so I think that should be fine.

However, the actual notice about privacy appearing in protected forms feels, reads, and looks quite lengthy. Not sure whether it has to be that long.

sun’s picture

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Screenshots:

mollom-admin-setting.png

mollom-form-privacy.png

sun’s picture

StatusFileSize
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Shortened to:

"By submitting this form, you accept the Mollom privacy policy."

dries’s picture

Version: 6.x-1.x-dev » 7.x-1.x-dev
Status: Needs review » Needs work

Great. Committed to D6. Let's port to D7.

sun’s picture

Version: 7.x-1.x-dev » 6.x-1.x-dev
Status: Needs work » Needs review
StatusFileSize
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Let's make it valid for XHTML Strict.

dries’s picture

Version: 6.x-1.x-dev » 7.x-1.x-dev
Status: Needs review » Needs work

Committed.

sun’s picture

Status: Needs work » Needs review
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And the port to HEAD.

sun’s picture

Status: Needs review » Needs work

thank god, I have tabs in my patch

sun’s picture

Status: Needs work » Reviewed & tested by the community
StatusFileSize
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Without tabs. And with -url suffixes for t() tokens.

Separate issue: We want to eliminate that @mollom-site-manager-add-url token. I've already shortened that description in a previous patch, but it looks like we can shorten it even more. :)

sun’s picture

StatusFileSize
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Same string changes for D6.

sun’s picture

StatusFileSize
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erm, sorry, seems I was too fast for my diff viewer. A JS behavior name change got lost. (HEAD)

dries’s picture

Status: Reviewed & tested by the community » Fixed

Committed to CVS HEAD. Marking fixed.

sun’s picture

Version: 7.x-1.x-dev » 6.x-1.x-dev
Status: Fixed » Reviewed & tested by the community

We missed the patch in #13 for 6.x.

dries’s picture

Status: Reviewed & tested by the community » Fixed

Committed #13.

Status: Fixed » Closed (fixed)

Automatically closed -- issue fixed for 2 weeks with no activity.

Diego Herranz’s picture

When a user reads:
"By submitting this form, you accept the Mollom privacy policy."
He might get worried because he doesn't know what Mollow is at all.

Maybe:
"By submitting this form, you accept the Mollom privacy policy (anti-spam and quality monitoring)"

And so, the user gets the idea of the anti-spam service, and doesn't worry that much.

Thank you very much for this GREAT module.

sun’s picture

Moved @Diego Herranz's suggestion in #19 into #1410818: Clarify privacy policy link

  • Commit 2c8983f on master, fai6, 8.x-2.x, fbajs, actions by Dries:
    - Patch #664964 by sun: added privacy policy link to forms protected via...

  • Commit 2c8983f on master, fai6, 8.x-2.x, fbajs, actions by Dries:
    - Patch #664964 by sun: added privacy policy link to forms protected via...