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Using "Please" in the interface

Project:Drupal core
Version:7.x-dev
Component:user interface text
Category:bug report
Priority:normal
Assigned:Unassigned
Status:closed (fixed)
Issue tags:Usability

Issue Summary

This issue will try to remove most unnecessary notions of the world "Please" - following the interface text writing standards we set in http://drupal.org/node/604342 . The world "Please" sets an unfriendly type of language, where its intention is to make "commands" more friendly it usually sets the wrong tone - implying a user HAS to do something.

Comments

#1

Status:active» needs review

First patch, to see whether I am not doing anything wrong.

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#2

Status:needs review» needs work

The last submitted patch, removing.please.patch, failed testing.

#3

Status:needs work» needs review
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#4

Status:needs review» fixed

Committed! Thanks.

#5

Status:fixed» active

You where a bit fast Dries, hehe :D Atleast 20 other mentions, but working on a patch

#6

There we go, decided not to remove a couple - because I wasn't sure about those, their context seems more important.

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#7

Looks like the same patch...

#8

Status:active» needs review

There we go a new one, the right one - had some problems getting cvs diff

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#9

Status:needs review» needs work

The last submitted patch, removing.more_.please.patch, failed testing.

#10

Status:needs work» needs review

Try this test bot!

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#11

Status:needs review» reviewed & tested by the community

The patch i uploaded was originally of Bohjan I just cut out the part that already had been commited.
I read through the entire patch...
Looks good for me, setting RTBC

And I think this has to get in soon because it's affecting a lot of pages. Else it will need a reroll.

Dries or Webchick: this is a follow up patch on the patch Dries commited to HEAD. (#3)

#12

Status:reviewed & tested by the community» needs review

Revised patch catches two missed instances of "please". Also removes several comma splice errors.

For example:

+      throw new Exception(st('Failed to modify %settings, verify the file permissions.', array('%settings' => $settings_file)));

Should be:

+      throw new Exception(st('Failed to modify %settings. Verify the file permissions.', array('%settings' => $settings_file)));

These are two separate command statements and require either a period (used in the revised patch) or a semicolon.

Also edited a few mistakes with ", or" constructions in "either...or" usage.

E.g.

+      $output .= '<p>' . t('For more information, refer to the specific topics listed in the next section, or the <a href="@handbook">online Drupal handbooks</a>. You may also post at the <a href="@forum">Drupal forum</a>, or view the wide range of <a href="@support">other support options</a> available.', array('@help' => url('admin/help'), '@handbook' => 'http://drupal.org/handbooks', '@forum' => 'http://drupal.org/forum', '@support' => 'http://drupal.org/support')) . '</p>';

Should be:

+      $output .= '<p>' . t('For more information, refer to the specific topics listed in the next section or the <a href="@handbook">online Drupal handbooks</a>. You may also post at the <a href="@forum">Drupal forum</a> or view the wide range of <a href="@support">other support options</a> available.', array('@help' => url('admin/help'), '@handbook' => 'http://drupal.org/handbooks', '@forum' => 'http://drupal.org/forum', '@support' => 'http://drupal.org/support')) . '</p>';

The construction is "refer to A or B", not "refer to A, or B."

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#13

Just reviewed your changes (jeez this is a big patch), those are better constructions. Good work!

#14

Status:needs review» reviewed & tested by the community

Looked it over too and looking good.
Ready to be committed, please.

#15

Status:reviewed & tested by the community» fixed

Drupal 7: Now with 700% less politeness! ;)

Committed to HEAD.

#16

Component:base system» user interface text

Let me fix that, unnecessary politeness :)

#17

Status:fixed» closed (fixed)

Automatically closed -- issue fixed for 2 weeks with no activity.

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