As explained at http://drupal.org/node/11218#comment-2610812 , the help text for the Filter module does not explain that changing the order of the formats changes the default format for new content and comments. This is confusing because in HTML, order in a list and selected status are two separate properties.

Currently the text on admin/config/content/formats says

Text formats are presented in the order you arrange them below. Configure a text format to change its behavior.

Suggest changing it to,

Text formats are presented in the order you arrange them below. The first format available to a user will be selected by default.  Configure a text format to change its behavior.
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#2 drupal.filter-formats-help.2.patch1.14 KBsun

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sun’s picture

Version: 7.0-alpha1 » 7.x-dev
Issue tags: +Needs usability review

Suggested change makes sense to me.

sun’s picture

Status: Active » Needs review
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1:1 as patch.

coderintherye’s picture

Seems based on the old discussion this is where I should post this.

I find this new setup a huge step backwards in terms of usability.

How do I define a default input format? I used to have the radio button, now I have nothing.

The way things are now, I cannot get down to one format, set it as default, and thus lose the input format dialog box. Unless I am missing something that is, but if I am missing it, I am sure many others are going to as well.

Users, at least the few dozen I have done walkthroughs with, don't want to choose an input format. Thus, in D6 I get to one format, set it as default, and then they don't have to deal with that box on the node edit form.

Now, it would seem the only way to get around this is to hack it with template.php to hide that piece of the form. Unless I am missing something?

sun’s picture

#2: drupal.filter-formats-help.2.patch queued for re-testing.

sun’s picture

Status: Needs review » Reviewed & tested by the community
dries’s picture

Status: Reviewed & tested by the community » Fixed

Committed to CVS HEAD. Thanks.

David_Rothstein’s picture

@nowarninglabel

How do I define a default input format? I used to have the radio button, now I have nothing.

Does the patch that was committed here help explain that sufficiently?

The way things are now, I cannot get down to one format, set it as default, and thus lose the input format dialog box.

Whatever you did in Drupal 6 to "get down to one format", do the same thing in Drupal 7. If a user only has access to one format, they will not see the format box when creating content. Nothing changed in that regard between Drupal 6 and 7.

Status: Fixed » Closed (fixed)
Issue tags: -Needs usability review

Automatically closed -- issue fixed for 2 weeks with no activity.