Hi everyone,
At the moment I am trying to choose a CMS system. At the moment I am looking at Joomla an Drupal.
It seems that Drupal is having cleaner code and also support css to a more extend than Joomla does with all his table output.
However, after playing with the demo of Drupal I end up with the following questions:
1. Is there a module for Drupal which will help users to add content with a wysiwyg edito like Joomla or do they need to use the tages.
2. Is it true that Drupal support submission of articles at once by users rather than accepting the articles by someone else like you have to in Joomla?
3. Is my impression correct that it is not that hard to convert a CSS design into a Drupal template?
4. What are my E-commerce capabilties as a Dutch citizen? (language, payment, shipping etc)
In the end I want to create one template which I will use for different business like:
1. Services business (information content and maybe client site which is only accesable by login
2. Publishing company which will be driven by e-commerce
3. Art company which will be driven by a combination of e-commerce and gallery capabillities.
Is Drupla suited for these kind of compnies/usage?
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1) Yes, it is possible
1) Yes, it is possible http://drupal.org/project/tinymce
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3) I never saw an easier System to develop css themes or to work with css!
4) There are many translations for Drupal and i think for e-commerce too.
Drupal should do, what you offer!
www.abi-brett.de
Let me add the link to
Let me add the link to E-Commerce module.
You may want to look at other modules at Modules page.
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Drupal Turkiye
E-commerce is not yet mature
As a Dutch citizen myself I've done a fairly large project using E-commerce. In my experience the E-commerce is not completely mature to be used outside the US. For instance: a payment module for paying by banktransfer is missing, a shipping module for simple table based shipping (to be used for TPG shipping calculations) is also missing. Some configuration options are missing also (for instance a way to change the weight options from pounds to kilograms). If you're planning to import data from other databases (or OScommerce for instance) then you'll have to write the import modules yourself. And: a BTW (VAT) tax module is missing as well. So there's still a lot of work to do.
The Dutch translation of Drupal (and several popular modules) is fairly complete. There is no translation for the E-commerce module. Please note that the 4.7 version of E-commerce is released only a month ago, or so, and the work (and bugfixes) is still in progress.
I've done some major work on theme design and I think Drupal has a very powerful template engine and has a clean separation of the base CMS and the template engine.
What do you mean by "support submission of articles at once"?
- George @ Dynapres.nl
Submission of articles at once explanation
Thanks for all the replies so far.
What I mean with submission of articles at once is the following:
In Joomla, when you have the rights, you can submit articles but they will not be published until the administrator will do so. In some cases this is what you want in others not. The idea situation would be that you can give the right to user to publish articles immadiately, or to have them controlled by the administrator.
And about that E-commerce module. How difficult is it to install a different E-commerce module that does support countries outside the US fully?
You can let your users to
You can let your users to publish their article immediately or you can put them in a moderation queue. You can let them to publish on the front page or not. These are simple settings for every node type.
I don't use e-commerce module and I have nothing to do with e-commerce. But I have just tested some features to be able to comment on this topic :)
There is a tax module in e-commerce module. You can define different taxes by country/city/region. You can choose which product types will have tax enabled. And tax can be a percent value like +10% or a constant value like +5.00
There is a Cash on Delivery payment method and its title can be changed to Bank transfer I think.
E-Commerce module may not be a perfect e-commerce solution. But I think it is very good.
Try e-commerce module on your own development server and discover its features by yourself decide if it is OK for you.
Are there any exprienced e-commerce users here? I may need these informations in the future.
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Drupal Turkiye
The tax module is not
The tax module is not suitable for VAT/BTW. The lack of a specialised VAT module is great ommission.
The COD module is not usable for bank transfers (for instance no email confirmations [with payment instructions] are sent after orders are placed).
No doubt in a couple of months things have changed for the better. It's a very promising module. If you are a developer you can always develop the missing functionality yourself, of course.
- George @ Dynapres.nl
Yes you can
With Drupal not only can you set a permission to let users submissions be reviewed by the adminstrator first or automatically published but, you can do both at the same time. You can also allow all new users to be assigned to one role on sign up. If you ever want to switch a user from one role to the other it only takes a few click since all of this is part of the core install so you have no coding to do yourself.
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E-commerce for dutch market
Hello George,
My congratulations on www.boekenwebsite.nl, did you build it? It seems to use the e-commerce module in Dutch language. Are you willing to share this translation? I cannot find it in the CVS.
update: here http://drupal.org/cvs?file=/modules/ecommerce/cart/po/nl.po are some (unfinished) translation files.
I have a seccond (and third ;) question for you,
- How do you manage to have a small, clickable image in the overview of products? I only manage to split the product's content using the [!--break] tag. Please update me on that.
-You have a payment option "Bankoverschrijving", did you accomplish that using an existing module?
I think you can make a difference for Drupal popularity in the Netherlands, since you have overcome some mayor issues on e-commerce for the Dutch market.
I am planning on developing a payment module for IDEAL Lite (rabobank), you might be interested or willing to help.
Please share your solutions for the better of all(I, You, community...)
For anyone willing to make Drupal e-commerce a good solution for the dutch market by development or translation, please contact me.
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BoekenWebsite.nl was
BoekenWebsite.nl was developed as a commercial E-commerce project so I cannot disclose any code (alas). A fair amount of custom code was developed.
To give you a bit background information: products are created using flexinodes, which handles the images (and thumbnails) just fine (you can define which flexinode fields are included in the teaser). The "Bankoverschrijving" payment module is based on COD with custom mail options.
Hope this helps (a bit).
- George @ Dynapres.nl
Is there still someone who
Is there still someone who can help me as a Dutch E-Commerce user?
I want to use Drupal for a new project and I hope to find some fellow Dutch E-Commerce users :-).
Have you looked at
Have you looked at ubercart?
http://drupal.org/project/ubercart
http://www.ubercart.org/
Drupal has a lot of
Drupal has a lot of flexibility if you want to make code changes
Joomla is not flexible if you want to make code changes
ECommerce with either is IMO... a bad situation.
When you start messing with people and their money from a website you'd better have your act together.
I suggest using a dedicated Cart and just link to it. Don't have login on the ECommerce site until the user is making a purchase.
Zen and OsCommerce are viable alternatives that are standalone PHP apps. Zen is an enhanced OsCommerce.
Hi, I agree on this
Hi,
I agree on this part:
"When you start messing with people and their money from a website you'd better have your act together"
The rest of your post is not my cup of tea.
Drupal can be a solid platform for e-commerce projects. 100'ds of people/companies did it before with success. But yes, you have to know what you are doing, or learn it. Ubercart is much easier if you want to build a webshop. E-commerce module is more versatile on other e-commerce areas.
Regards,
Kees
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