Hi There,
Today I noticed that Adobe launched it's new Creative Suite (5). Dreamweaver is one of my favorite editors and I noticed that one of the main big new features is support for Content Management System frameworks. Drupal (and Wordpress/Joomla!) are mentioned explicitly. The information besided that is not that much.

I was wondering if anyone had any (hands on) experience with DW CS5 (beta for instance) and can tell me if this is really a great feature (for people who are used to work with a graphical editor like Dreamweaver as myself) or is it just a bunch of marketing talk? I would love it to visually edit drupal sites, move around blocks etc.

I hope someone can shed some light.

Kind regards,
Bas

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GeekElectro’s picture

I too would LOVE to be able to edit Drupal themes in Dreamweaver, as I am familiar with it as well. It would significantly reduce the (re)design phase of pages, themes, and so on to be able to see realtime what code changes are doing to the page design. It also helps new users to understand basics much better to have immediate visual feedback. Something like this should help theme development on Drupal explode, which is better all round.

One of the main things keeping many less knowledgeable people from adopting is not easily being able to change the look and feel of their website. CMS theming historically has had a steep learning curve for those not already familiar with some of the basic concepts.

People are busy. The products which are successful are the ones which let people get things done quickly, and not the ones with which people spend all of their time LEARNING how to get things done.

amaree’s picture

Hi

Just letting you know that you can use Dreamweaver CS5 to create Drupal templates nice and easy as it know has Drupal Support out of the box, please see;

http://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver/

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/logged_in/sfegette_dwcs5.html?devcon=f1

Also if you are using CS4 Dreamweaver please visit

http://drupal.org/node/18151

these guys make plugins for Dreamweaver and Drupal http://xtnd.us/

Hope the above helps :)

david3605’s picture

I'm on the Dreamweaver team. There is a sample video from the lynda.com Dreamweaver CS5 course that shows some of the new CMS integration:

http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=59959

Once on this page, click the link: "Working with CMS frameworks". The instructor is using WordPress in the video, but the same functionality applies to Drupal.

- David

PetarB’s picture

As a person who was very excited to purchase the original Dreamweaver way back when, and have used every Dreamweaver version since, I am sad to see how it has become more and more irrelevant to intelligent (ie php, etc) websites.
Anything Dreamweaver can do to interact with CMS development is a step in the right direction.

PetarB’s picture

Now that I've had a chance to review how CS5 can help with Drupal design I'm pretty underwhelmed. Once again design seems to be relegated to a process of 'trial and error' to achieve a desired outcome.

On the CS5 movie referenced above, I shook my head in dismay as I listened to the evangelist get excited about being able to quickly access and 'see' the CSS code for the

values. Then he calls it a 'design environment'. Come on...

'Features' such as the filter funnel are basically another area to where the search source code text has gone.

The fact that we have to 'toggle live environment' on and off a couple of times to get it to work properly seem to be an issue.

The code hints are a welcome surprise though.

picxelplay’s picture

I have always been a fan of good ole Notepad++, because I have trust issues. I just have never trusted Dreamweaver to get everything right. I don't like how it opens files up in design views. I just feel like it's really easy for Dreamweaver to mess up. Like how wysiwyg editors strip code and add crap in when it's not suppose to be. I hate that crap.

But maybe I will try testing DW5 out.

Can anyone shed some light on if Dreamweaver actually gets things right and does not screw things up?

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greywolfsspirit’s picture

As I currently have been designing my themes with Artisteer, being able to use Dreamweaver would open a lot more abilities, if it does indeed allow users to create fully functional theme templates with little to no 'touching up' to get it to work. If someone does work with Dreamweaver CS5 and creates a template, please post your results so we can get an idea how much ease/pain it is to work with.

Joneswilliamsc’s picture

Same situation is here. I like the Drupal theme too much. And I am also going to use them in my Dreamweaver because its my favorite editors. I add this theme in it and modify and edit some of other theme also.

Jon Betts’s picture

Has anyone successfully set up a Drupal multisite using DW CS5? I'm unable to, I keep getting server configuration errors. I'm beginning to think it isn't possible. All examples I've seen are for a single site Wordpress install.

amaree’s picture

Ok so i got it working with Drupal 6 and also my own CMS built on the Pear Framework so from what i can see most LAMP sites will work with CS5.

however i have had problems with Drupal7, for some reason it is not happy chappy not sure why as it just throws up a site information error, and tells me there is something wrong in the site set-up :( i will keep playing and start a new thread for drupal7 and CS5

regarding my set-up with CS5 and Drupal 6, for me my testing server is on the internet as well as my remote, both different servers. I also got it up and running with a vmware server for testing and also production for remote. From my experience it is really just for CSS changes, so i can make direct code changes through dreamweaver CSS and i can make code PHP changes etc but from my testing so far it is much more aimed at CSS changes. I need to keep playing and i will put some config stuff up with VMWare server if anyone wants, but i dont have a WAMP/XAMP etc set-up i test straight on servers.

Anyways it seems to work easy with my CMS it does pick up and recognise the includes etc for my own so i was impressed by that. For Drupal6 it picked up all needed pages but you need to load index.php, for me if i call from local it goes spat... but if i call it from testing it works fine. anyways need to keep playing around to see, i use a mix of eclipse and dreamweaver personally. dreamweaver mainly for templates etc. so the code inspect on the CSS side alone is worth the upgrade for me.

keen to hear others stories

Retnuh’s picture

This does nothing (that I could see) more than three free products out there: Notepad++, Firefox and Firebug Plugin.
Actually, you only need Firefox and Firebug to do what Dreamweaver CS5 does.

I have never been a big fan of DW, reason for that is I got into coding everything by hand and not using a visual editor. You never know what Visual Editors are doing behind the scenes if you do not know how to code.
The two things I couldn't stand were if you hit the Enter key in Design mode to drop down a line, it would put a paragraph with a space in it. The other thing is that if your design view (window) was smaller than the actual website dimensions, it would put elements below others and make it appear that the website didn't look right. That was weird.

Hey DW might have fixed those issues, because I haven't seen DW for a long time because of some of those issues.

Just my two cents

picxelplay’s picture

I give you a thumbs up :)

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legend112’s picture

I have never been a fun of DW too. I trust my notepad++ and hate all the crap most of these commercial products come with. Combine Firefox with Firebug then get a copy of Notepad++ and you're good to go! The only product I may consider is PS but Gimp is still good for a noob like me when it comes to gfx design.

bennash’s picture

I found help here: http://www.adobepress.com/articles/article.asp?p=1590589&seqNum=5

I now have Live View working with an external web host. It seemed to work after updating the Dreamweaver site profile's root to be the same as the Drupal root. I chose PHP MySQL as a Testing Server. I opening up the index.php file. Clicked Discover, then found the theme's css file. This workflow will help.

sherifmayika’s picture

check out my Drupal Dreamweaver cs5 extension which takes new Drupal-Dreamweaver cs5 partnership to its new level. www.themegenie.net

63995550’s picture

Dw cs5 very good . I like this is software. hope is improve my study speed .

reetle44’s picture

I found a very helpful article while poking around:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/dw_working_with_drupal....

In addition, the lynda.com video on what's new in DW CS5 has a title on working with a CMS:
http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=59959

Rachel