By damaikar-at-sgprojx.com.au on

Hi Folks, (PLease note: I have posted this into a TinyMCE Thread and the Useability Feedback Forum as well. I would like to stay with Drupal if I can:-)

Yes, be very afraid, I am a newbie :-P; Please set your 'discriminator-guns' to stun only :-) Drupal as of yesterday, CMS as of last week.

I am in one of those feature gaps. I started with Mambo, then went to Joomla which for some reason worked better than Mambo (could only be the spelling). But Joomla did not provide the level of stable integrated user communication that Drupal does. eg real Blogging.

I liked the look of Joomla but quite complex for new users. But it did have TinyMCE built in with an optional JCE WysisWYG Editor; both of which worked exceptionally well and gave as good control over formatting and presentation as I wanted.

In my new Drupal site, I have tried 2 versions of TinyMCE (4.7 & CVS Releases). I am using the META-THEMES PACK (Set to Black), which I like very much and it has not misbehaved that I am aware of.

THE PROBLEM - THERE IS NO FORMATTING IN THE FINAL OUTPUT OF EITHER VERSIONS OF TinyMCE. It's fine while I am editing, but the output is CRAP!

Now I know some of you have this Editor working just fine. Can anyone assist?

MY DILEMMA! I seem to be heading inexorably to one of those Trade-Off Decisions that everyone faces but most do not like. In all honesty I much prefer working with Drupal...It's cleaner more stable, straight forward and has all the functionalilty I need. It just lacks presentability at this point. This is enough of a problem for me to send me back to Joomla unless I am able to get this TinyMCE thing working.

Many thanks in advance.

Stephen G

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syawillim’s picture

syawillim commented

You do have input format set to Full HTML don't you.

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ggevalt commented

This is a good point that I forgot to mention in my longer note....
You absolutely have to have it defaulted to Full HTML. And, honestly, that was a drawback for me; having full html set as default can increase the chances of hacking and I decided to stay away from it for a while....

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dman commented

The optimal setting is to have it filtered HTML, BUT then add all the tags you expect to see created by the WYSIWYG as legal.
Thus you have very granular control of everything.

And, um, reading the README with the module probably mentions this.

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ggevalt commented

I am a newbie as well, but not quite as fresh as you. I have worked through 4.6 and early 4.7 and then finally launched with the 4.7.3 version.

What I have found is that the simpler the better with Drupal. There are some minor squirrely things that happen with some of the modules from time to time and I found that once I made a change with some things it was sometimes hard to undo. Now that I have content, I've found that with some things it's a breeze to update and change and other things a bit trickier.

This holds true with tinyMCE. I loaded it up and was quite pleased. Then I went to edit an old piece and it was a mess. I also found that even though I had only loaded up the basic features, it really slowed the page loading. So I shut it off.

I am hoping that Drupal 5.0 will have a much better set-up, but I still am not sure whether I'll incorporate it. I never thought I'd say this, but I am beginning to prefer coding. What you see is what you get and it honestly is more reliable. But I realize, too, that as my site gains more users, the attraction of being able to play around with fonts and appearance gives folks a charge and makes a site more attractive for users...

As to your larger question....Despite my complaints above, which are minor, I heartily recommend Drupal. It's a bit of a bear to learn and get your head around, but man is it doing well and it's perfect for what I do and for what I plan in the future. FYI I played around with Joomla on the almost missionary recommendation of someone who knew a lot more than me about CMS software; but I finally gave up and blew it up. While easier in some respects it is far less robust and is more restrictive. Interestingly, the person who made the recommendation has since switched to Drupal after he became incredibly frustrated with Joomla.

Drupal is good. Don't worry, keep going. I can also tell you that the folks in these forums have been incredibly helpful. Just be patient.

geoff gevalt
http://www.youngwritersproject.org

geoff gevalt
http://www.youngwritersproject.org
http://www.ywpschools.net
http://geoffreygevalt.com

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drupalnesia commented

Hi newbie,
I have meet too many questions like yours, here my detail opinion: http://drupal.org/node/87740

Please share your edtior experience with us, otherwise Drupal stay tune with no editor in the core.

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revaboogy commented

Page content editors is at the heart of clients being able to edit their pages them selfs. I need to be able to have the clients impute content them selfs. Ya when I first set up pages for people I have the freedom to go to code but what about my clients.

I run a business building websites that boasts clients updating there own site. I know it's dangerous but nothing that can't be fixed. At the moment I'm using Joomla because of it's JCE editor. Outside of it sometimes giving us extra spaces to be deleted and other things it's great. I'm interested in using Drupal but I need it to have a powerful editor that is user friendly.

So here is my delema, do I stick with Joomla(with JCE rocking the content world) or will some one develop something for Drupal.

JCE has all your text stuff plus image mangier with resize, media mangier, doc mangier, forum links, page mangier, advanced link developer, captions, pop ups, and a whole lot more......

Could some one please develop something like this for Drupal so I can use it.

Thanks guys......

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nevets commented

I answer this under you other posting at http://drupal.org/node/87889 (which is why one should not post the same question twice)