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Ive already gone through most of the possible validation issues; yet FireFox still reads my left side bar differently then IE. Any suggestions on what I could do to fix this?
Ive already gone through most of the possible validation issues; yet FireFox still reads my left side bar differently then IE. Any suggestions on what I could do to fix this?
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I see your problem mate - I
I see your problem mate - I dont have any sensible sugestions, so how about; sellotape some small bits of paper over the boxes that are out of line when using firefox?
=[ If only it were so
=[ If only it were so simple.
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Nick Fitz
Do you get the same problem
Do you get the same problem with different themes?
Thats cool :P If I view
Thats cool :P
If I view source, on line 82, there's this:
<td valign="top" colspan="0" rowspan="0" align="left">I took out the colspan="0" and rowspan="0" and it seemed to display properly.
THat, uh, doesn't make much sense though.
Maybe FF doesn't interpret a col/rowspan of 0 as "don't span" ? I see it elsewhere in your HTML and it doesn't cause an issue.
Both browsers have plenty of
Both browsers have plenty of bugs. In the meantime, why specify colspan or rowspan=0? Is there a style changing the default span size? If not, it's silly or even stupid to specify unnecessary properties - all they do is make you transfer more bytes, and possibly find browser bugs :)
Stay away from colspans and especially rowspans
Whenever possible. I don't use rowspans myself. Colspans only sometimes. It's easier and more reliable just to nest another table sometimes. Also, the invisible gif expanded to the correct width always seems to hold things together better than without it.
My two cents.
This aint gonna help
This aint gonna help specifically with your problem, but it is meant to be helpful nonetheless.
Why even using tables for this?
I whipped-out Powerband on its ass to quickly view the page's DOM, and then gave up after seeing all the nested tables and DIV's - No need for what is - or could be - a basically simple CSS solution.
The design is way over-complicated which is prolly why you're having trouble debugging it.
Tables are for tabular data.
Mike
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Alternately,
the idea that grids (in this case called "tables") are only "for tabular data" is contrary to the fact that grids have a long history of use in the fine arts, architecture, and the graphic arts as well as in the educational curriculum for those areas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grid_%28page_layout%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio
The one fix that someone
The one fix that someone found did work -- HOWEVER, not my right side bar wont align to the top;
Any suggestions? www.x3o.com/gaming1/index.php
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Nick Fitz
Nick in FF both sides aren't
Nick
in FF both sides aren't aligned to the top. At least, not in my view.
Adding a VALIGN=TOP in the TR on row 86 corrected the left column, and in the TD on row 412 did the trick for the right column.
If you want to change the
If you want to change the meaning, or context, then sure... you could drive to work on them too if you want! ;)
Mike
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Tables suck for laying out a
Tables suck for laying out a page, but in my limited experience, some tools like Dreamweaver tend to use tables to do a lot of the positioning.
Not ideal, but if you're unfamiliar with positioning in CSS, tables are easy.
Tables are only easy for small layouts
Tables are only easy for small layouts. When your pages get big and complicated, you need software to manage them. CSS allows you to use absolute positioning, so most of the things people use big complicated tables for are better done with CSS, which allows a simpler page.
With that said, Tables still seem to make some sense for producing your overall page layout. They work pretty much the same in all browsers and they are very reliable. Even tricks like negative margins don't necessarily work reliably.
I would like to thank
I would like to thank everyone who gave ideas and support on this forum topic. Since posted, I've become moving from table, of table, of table, of table......layout to as much CSS as possible, and it has fixed all of the bugs on the site. I am a true CSS believer.
Thanks again.
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Nick Fitz
right side problem
I am using internetcenter theme
i am having a problem with IE whenever i use an image on the left side or right side bar
the right side bar jumps on the left and get aligned under the left side
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