Embed Vanilla

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As per requirements, the motivation should include a description of the module features (more than two sentences), and a comparison with the existing solutions.

Hello, and thank you for your reply.

What is the difference between Vanilla Forums, and the forums provided by Drupal?

I've looked at Vanilla in the past and it's fairly different. It could be replicated with Advanced Forum but would take a bit of work. I've seen others asking for Vanilla integration in the past so, as much as I hate to say it, I think it would be a worthwhile contribution. :)

Michelle

I am the founder of Vanilla Forums, and I can provide any information necessary. Vanilla is an open-source (GPL v2) forum platform that powers discussions on over 400,000 sites around the world. Vanilla is a PHP-based modern take on discussion forums with a focus on customization and inter-operability. We make it very easy to add a modern community discussion piece to your existing site, and we are putting a heavy focus on making nice integrations for other popular platforms like Drupal as we've had many drupal users coming to our site asking for help getting Vanilla integrated.

You can find out more about our project at http://vanillaforums.org, review over 500 addons for Vanilla in our addon repository at http://vanillaforums.org/docs. I'll keep watching this discussion and answer any questions you have.

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A cursory look at the code shows that it could certainly benefit from some cleanup -- specifically the coding standards related to indentation would make the code a lot easier to read.

Edit: a good way to get your code cleaned up is to run it through the coder module.

I'll take a look

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There is a module for vanilla ProxyConnect SSO here as well in case anybody is interested:
http://drupal.org/project/orchid

Hi there !
I just found this topic, and I am the maintainer of the orchid module which has the same goal (provide ease to embed vanilla into drupal) and also provides SSO with the ProxyConnect module.

Currently the module provide a block and a panel pane to ease embedding a vanilla forum.
It is available for 6.x and 7.x
I would be glad to share the orchid maintenance and evolution with you Architeck because I found that Drupal and Vanilla can be a killer combo to quickly build a community oriented website :)

Here is the roadmap I expect to have a really great integration :

- providing avatar synchro between drupal and vanilla
- providing a Drupal Embed Theme (which remove for example sign in and sign out link and do a bit of cleaning on a user profile page)
- Providing a really better documentation
- more security with default drupal permission system

Just let me know if you are interested :)

David

module page : http://drupal.org/project/orchid
screencast : http://vimeo.com/muldos/orchid

Looks like Architeck needs to respond to the co-maintainer offer from muldos before this is reviewed (or closed).

I've made two commits (sorry for the poor commit messages)

1. I've removed an old file that was no longer needed,
2. I've reformatted the code to be inline with drupal standards, made 1 or two structural messages, and made some suggestions

Arch: I'll send you a message detailing the suggestions

Embedding: Works like a charm!
User integration: Doesn't

Is this module supposed to integrate the users too? Or else what is the point of having it? If it doesn't integrate the users, we can just get the embed script from the Vanilla Forum and paste it into any node.

Hi there again !
I add some details about orchid : the embed and the sso part are totally independant, you dont' ahave to use sso to embed vanilla in a drupal website with orchid.
I just lack of time to do better screencast for the moment but a screencast that will show only the embed part would be a 2mn /3mn screencast, so I believe a setup that long is pretty acceptable for every user ;)

Anyway I will respect your decision Architeck, if you think that the fact than orchid also provide sso with proxyconnect could be a problem for some users !

The embed part in my (too long and too french :p) screencast start at 21:26 and it's cleaner with panels than with standard blocks, I found.
http://vimeo.com/22023735

Maybe "Navywavy" could give us his feeling about if we should merge or keep two modules, because proxyconnect is also made by vanilla team and I was planning to integrate other block and panels pane for the new embeddable Widgets soon in orchid.

David

I avoided getting involved in this for a while, because I wasn't sure how to deal with it, but it's been sitting here too long, so I'm going to jump in now.

I looked through the code of both embedvanilla and orchid, and I don't see any functionality in embedvanilla that isn't already included in orchid. If you look at the bottom of #539608: What to expect from the review process, you'll see that "I have written a much simpler version" is explicitly listed as a commonly rejected motivation for creating a new module. Drupal.org heavily favors collaboration on a single project over multiple projects with overlapping functionality. It's one of our core principles.

As much as I hate to reject an application that has been waiting so long, I can't see how embedvanilla can be justified as a new full project. Architeck, if you have any other Drupal projects, please consider creating a new application. If you contact me, I will review it much more quickly this time. My opinion is this shouldn't go forward, and you should instead accept muldos' offer to make you a co-maintainer on the orchid project.

If you would like to get a second opinion, just set it back to "needs review" and I'll ask someone else from the Code Review group to look at this. If you're not interested in pursuing this application further, please set the status to "closed (won't fix)".

Your welcome aboard Architeck !