I don't have any problems installing .deb files, but when it comes to tar.gz, then nothing happens. I extract the files but that is it. How do I get throught this installation
thanks

Fernand

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mbc’s picture

When you say install, what do you mean? When it comes to website software, there isn't anything you need to install to your computer. All you have to do is extract the files(which it appears you have already been able to do), and you upload those files to some online database via an FTP client such as FileZilla or SmartFTP(I'm not sure if SmartFTP is on Debian distros, but as an Ubuntu user, I know FileZilla is).
I hope I was able to help.

- mbc

Fernand St-Georges@videotron.ca’s picture

Well, once I've extracted I must be able to open an application?

mbc’s picture

Which application(or type of application) are you attempting to open? The only application you need to open when it comes to uploading files for a website is an FTP client, such as the two I previously mentioned.
Also, to install Drupal, open the files and select all of them. Drag those files into a folder on your website via an FTP client, and that will do the rest of the work for you.

- mbc

yelvington’s picture

The required binary applications are the webserver (presumably apache) and the database server (presumably mysql), both of which are standard parts of any Linux distribution.

You do not need to install Drupal as a .deb file -- just untar the .tgz directory structure and place it in your webserver's document directory. For use on your computer, that is simply a matter of dragging and dropping the file tree where it belongs. For a remote server, you can use an FTP client such as gftp, or do what I do -- mount the remote server as a directory using Nautilus. Now your remote filesystem acts as if it were local to you.

The only safe way to use .deb file to install Drupal would be to use the Acquia distribution, which leverages the Mint/Ubuntu/Debian environment effectively and -- this is important -- properly updates you for security and bugfixes.

mbc’s picture

So by an application, Fernand meant a web server such as Apache?
Sorry if I caused you any confusion if that's the answer that you were going for.

- mbc

lawrencecharleshickey’s picture

Is there a site for drupal developers to use before a commercial web hosting company has been selected?
What do I upload to if I don't have such a target in hand? Explain where apache runs- on my machine or
on the web host machine? What is a LAMP stack for?
There seems to be two ways to proceed. 1) User drupal 7 from the menu package manager on linux mint 13,
or go to drupal sites and begin to install stuff from there. Which is better?. I need a concrete plan of what to do
after I load drupal-7 from mint. You are right, there are just some files. Do I use ftp to move these files somewhere?
Do I need to use samba etc to make this directory on a remote machine look local to me then? All these drupal
files that i have just created via my package manager have been moved there then? That package manager has my-sql-server 5.5 and apache2.2-common. Do I move all of this stuff somewhere? how much of it. What stays on my machine.
As an alternative to using the drupal7.12 from my mint package manager, I could use, I guess
Xampp and it is lots of stuff I think I need.
From
\url{https://www.apachefriends.org/download.html}
-----------------------------------------------------------
This Includes: Apache 2.4.12, MySQL 5.6.24, PHP 5.6.8 & PEAR + SQLite 2.8.17/3.7.17
+ multibyte (mbstring) support, Perl 5.16.3, ProFTPD 1.3.4c, phpMyAdmin 4.4.3,
OpenSSL 1.0.1m, GD 2.0.35, Freetype2 2.4.8, libpng 1.5.9, gdbm 1.8.3, zlib
1.2.8, expat 2.0.1, Sablotron 1.0.3, libxml 2.0.1, Ming 0.4.5, Webalizer
2.23-05, pdf class 0.11.7, ncurses 5.9, pdf class 0.11.7, mod_perl 2.0.8-dev,
FreeTDS 0.91, gettext 0.18.1.1, IMAP C-Client 2007e, OpenLDAP (client) 2.4.21,
mcrypt 2.5.8, mhash 0.9.9.9, cUrl 7.30.0, libxslt 1.1.28, libapreq 2.12, FPDF
1.7, ICU4C Library 4.8.1, APR 1.4.6, APR-utils 1.5.1
--------------------------------------------------------

Is this Xampp stuff a better way to go? Same question. What do I do with these files. How many are moved
and where? How many stay. etc. Is there some good overview I can read so I have some idea of the big picture.
AND can I do it without having selected a web hosting company so I can experiment with web design until I get it right.

yelvington’s picture

If you are running any Linux distribution on your PC, simply make sure that mysql, apache and php are installed from that distribution's repository. Use your distribution's package manager to install them.

Do NOT use your distribution's package manager to install Drupal, because the version in the repository will almost certainly be outdated, and you need to learn how to install Drupal files properly anyway.

Find the docroot if the webserver that will be running on your PC (usually /var/www/htdocs or something like that).

Download the current version of Drupal from drupal.org, untar, and place it in the docroot, being careful NOT to omit the .htaccess file, which Linux will hide from you by default.

Go to http://localhost/ with your web browser and complete the installation as documented. You will have to create a mysql database and grant access, then provide that information to the Drupal installer.

lawrencecharleshickey’s picture

I have not installed drupal yet But have php, sql,apache running ok. I have only an empty directory
in /var/www
Shall i make make a htdocs subdirectory and put the drupal stuff in there?
I do have a htdocs subdirectory in /opt/lampp that contains an index.php file.
Can I put the drupal stuff in THIS subdirectory?

1428 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/dashboard/phpinfo.php
1429 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/index.php
1430 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/biorhythm.php
1431 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/cds-fpdf.php
1432 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/charset.php
1433 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/components.php
1434 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/contrib/dom.php
1435 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/contrib/mcrypt.php
1436 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/contrib/mingstats_swf.php
1437 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/contrib/mysql.php
1438 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/contrib/oracle.php
1439 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/contrib/postgresql.php
1440 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/contrib/sax.php
1441 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/contrib/soap.php
1442 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/contrib/sql2xml.php
1443 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/contrib/sqlite.php
1444 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/contrib/xmlrss.php
1445 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/head.php
1446 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/index.php
1447 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/lang/languages.php
1448 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/lang.php
1449 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/langsettings.php
1450 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/manuals.php
1451 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/mysql.php
1452 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/phonebook.php
1453 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/phpinfo.php
1454 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/php.php
1455 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/showcode.php
1456 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/splash-logo.php
1457 20150604125610 /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/splash.php

I guess I will use drupal7 Will i then use my browser to go to http://localhost and find some hint of drupal
there. I use http://localhost/phpadmin etc now. Apachefriends website, when i got the xampp stuff, has a
drupal. i don't know what version but should I use that one because it may play ball with the apache php mysql
from the same site? Maybe the drupal from here will know about stuff like where my htdocs is located?

https://bitnami.com/stack/xampp#drupal

Thanks for the help. Appreciate it a lot.